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I tried meth and opiates and dont understand how anyone could be addicted to them because they are relatively mid

Will start by saying that I'm not a degenerate with drugs. I almost exclusively take them socially, so my experience has always been with alcohol, cigs, zyns (no vapes because I'm not a cute twink), weed, mushrooms, lsd, coke (rarely), and mdma. Essentially what you'd find inside a typical rave. Recently I tried Meth and Percocet, on two separate occasions. There was some part of me that was afraid that this would be the beginning of a degeneracy spiral. But coming away from these experiences, I'm left confused, because both of them are shitty and lame.

  • I'll start with Meth :marseybowl:. I normally test my Molly but was handed a pill at a function by a friend, and sort of without thinking, I took it (found out later it tested positive for meth). Wow, what a shitty high. It literally just felt like a "rougher" version of Molly with was less of the fun euphoria. I basically only got an energetic burst, but even in that regard, it was shittier than cocaine which I've only taken twice. The euphoria was also less of the "I love everyone" signature MDMA high and more "I want to move and run around."

  • Next is the Percocets :marseymeds:. This is the most recent experience which inspired this post. I was prescribed percocets for a medical procedure that I had roughly two months ago and never really needed them because I'm not a kitty. Sort of out of morbid curiosity, I decided to take a total of 10mg, which Erowid says is on the border of a common-high dosage. I literally felt almost nothing but a bit of warmth inside and a small amount of euphoria. I went on a walk, which was nice, and it wasn't like I had a bad time. But the affects were not nearly as acute as I was expecting.

So, coming away from thi, are hard drug users actually r-slurred? I hear stories of people getting addicted to meth and opiates all the time and I cannot fathom how this happens. I guess if opiates are the only thing relieving your chronic pain thats one thing. But how could anyone find the symptoms of these good enough to abuse them to an addiction level recreationally? Especially when much better drugs exist.

  • MDMA and cocaine blow these so far out of the water. Honestly, not even that. A bottle of grey goose washes Percocet.

  • And I haven't even talked about safety yet, being that almost anything is much safer than opiates or meth.

  • The affects of literally any psychedelic are also 10x better than this shit.

  • Is it because of price? No. I googled the street price for Oxy as around 12-40 dollars per pill and Meth around 80/gram so 16/dose. Meanwhile, the price I pay for 220ug of LSD is 2.50 per tab and MDMA as 10 per point. So you're not even getting a "better" deal on a per high basis.

  • Is it because of ease of access? I can't imagine it is. I wouldn't even know where to look to buy opiates but all the local dealers on telegram are easy to find.

I am now genuinely curious. Can someone illuminate this issue for me? :marseyconfused:

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Meth is shitty coke

Molly is for cute twinks

Opiates (percs,oxy,etc) are shitty heroin

Coke and booze are for partying. Psychedelic's are for adventures.

Everything else is trash and a waste of time.

Except heroin, it's great, but will ruin your life, if it doesn't kill you first.

Benzos also fall into this category. Pretty good, but highly addictive.

And detoxing from them is literally worse than any other drug. And it can kill you.

They can also kill you if you drink with them.

So overall they're about as deadly and horrible as heroin, if not more. Stay away.

There, I just saved everyone the trouble of experimenting.

*Necessary disclaimer: I do not use drugs anymore, so this is based on old past experience.

*Another note: I love LSD but as far as I am aware it is not common anymore. LSD and mushrooms are largely interchangeable though.

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Heroin is the most overrated drug of all time

The only people that glorify it are people that never tried it or addicts that need it to feel normal.

Oxy high > heroin high if you can afford it

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>oxy > heroin

:marseydoctor: FRICK OFF LOSER I NEED MY VICODIN! :marseydoctor:

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I never did it. My brother said it was great and I took his word for it.

The closest I've done is oxy or morphine (medical reasons) and I did think morphine was kind of cool.

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Mostly agree with this except for the molly take, molly is incredible.

Where I live tho LSD is pretty common nowadays. Just by asking around you can find a plug pretty easily and prices aren't that bad.

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Maybe it's back now. It was gone for a while.

I think there was something about some prolific acid creator going to jail like 10-15 years ago.

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Yeah I've heard something about there being an acid drought some years ago. Nowadays tho it seems like every dealer has the “220ug” gels with signature gold flakes so I guess there's a new chemist picking up the slack

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That's good. I hope it makes a come back.

Even though I don't use them anymore, I'm a pretty big proponent of psychedelics.

I've done a considerable amount of LSD over the years and overall would rate it as positive and relatively harmless.

There are interesting studies coming out now about their use in treatment of things like depression and addiction.

Also the rise of people doing things like micro dosing is interesting and may have positive effects as well.

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Coke and booze :marseymoonshine: are for partying. Psychedelic's are for adventures.

Based take, coke for the club and shrooms at the ski cabin with bros is how I use them

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This is the way.

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Molly is meth for children. If you decide you want to further melt your brain and be high constantly that's the move because there's absolutely no way to function in society on Molly. Completely trash drug and you should keep yourself safe for not realizing how gay it is. Just do coke like a man.

Lol at comparing opiates to booze. That's not an either/or.

Price and ease of access to anything is easier once you're a part of the in-group (in this case junkies).

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Yeah because I can function so much better in society on meth? You fricking r-slur, do you think I'm taking Molly nonstop every day? I wish I could because it's inarguably one of the best drugs ever, but because I'm not r-slurred, I limit my usage to a relatively safe level. Like I said the reason why I like it so much is that molly is a very social drug. Maybe you hate on it so much because you're a cute twink with no friends :marseythumbsup:

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Molly is melting your brain even if you do it once a year. It's the only drug I regret doing and I can literally see the continued cognitive decline in my friends that haven't stopped. No exaggeration the dudes doing meth every day have better brains at 50 than the idiots rolling at festivals a few times a year do at 25.

Edit: and they literally get depressed for a week now after they roll and have to miss work while the methchads are doing more work than ever and having a blast with it.

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I've met dudes who do meth in work environment, also met one guy who did molly. Meth dudes varied in weirdness, but they all had the same sort of pattern of eating like no food and alert the entire day. Molly guy would sport a justin beeber cut and try hooking up with other people's girlfriends lmao. At least the tweakers kept to themself

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I used to manage a warehouse and the meth guys and gals were always absolute beasts. Never ate, only breaks were to smoke, and they never brought any problems to me. I know it's cutting decades off their lifespan but I honestly liked them. Like you said they mostly kept to themselves, and because meth lasts forever I never had to fire any of them for doing drugs at work like I did the potheads.

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nah fr talkin 80 a g for meth lol its 10-15 a g lol

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I've been addicted to codeine for like 5 years and it's pretty great :marseythumbsup:

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Meth feels almost identical to Adderall for me. The only obvious difference is the duration. I don't get the appeal either

Oxy was very nice the first couple times I have done it at around 40mg. Now I barely feel it at 80mg even after 1 year of break and I didn't used it much

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Hard drug addicts don't enjoy life enough to tolerate it sober. That's the only real difference. Drugs don't fundamentally change the experience. Except for psychedelics, those are great

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my drugs of choice are booze, nicotine, weed, shrooms, lsd, mdma and sometimes coke

Tremendously based and drugpilled

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I never :marseyitsover: really :marseythinkorino2: got the appeal of percocet

Doing Molly at a rave was pretty :marseyglam: good, I just wish it lasted longer

LSD and 25i are better :marseygenetakovic: than anything :marseycoleporter: else. I stopped drinking :marseydrunk2: and smoking :marseydoomer: weed afterwards because they were just so boring :marseynothingburger: and side effecty compared to real drugs.

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You're a b-word thats y

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tf are you talking about opiates are great

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Druggie

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i'm just being honest. dk why people are all about uppers all the time. past 6pm downers are choice

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I feel like I was pretty clear about it in the post but nah mdma or coke are way better

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i didn't read the post it's too long i only read the title. i stand by what i said tho

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Darn that's actually based

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Idk what kind of meth you're taking but the time i got a pressed meth pill was fantastic. Visuals, tracers, euphoria, endless, boundless energy. Way better than plain molly. Molly + meth are rly good

You def end up fiending the day after

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You just need to inject ice straight into your peepee veins, you'll never go back. Namaste

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:marseyrope#yourself:

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lol he "swallowed" meth

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never tried meth only addy so cant speak on the effects itself but as far as roas for meth orally provides the least rush

but i use opiates occasionally i have no idea how u didnt at least like it

also opiates are relatively safe. they're prescribed for daily use and u didnt really exceed a prescribed dosage

and ur wrong about price lol meth is 15 a gram plus the percs get cheaper the more u buy

fr tho idk why u didnt like the percs i have to stay away from oxy because how great they are

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Meth 80/g??? Who's ur meth guy bro that's absurd prices

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