Cousin Marriage/Avunculate Marriage and Incest (Royal and otherwise) :marseyking: :marseypope:

Dramatards, the man on the painting was Charles II of Spain (Carlos II), the last monarch of the House of Austria (the Spanish Habsburgs)

He suffered from metal r-sluration being considered a simpleton and possibly Klinefelter syndrome and epilepsy. That means was sterile and had a micropeepee.

Here's his family tree

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17218352109142396.webp

As you can see his father King Philip IV and his mother Queen Mariana of Austria were uncle and niece, this is called Avunculate Marriage. Philip IV parents, Philip III and Margaret of Austria were cousins and Philip III parents Philip II and Anne of Austria were again uncle and niece. Because the Catholic Church forbids incest and classifies it as up to third degree cousins, these types of marriages required a papal dispensation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensation_(Catholic_canon_law)

Here's the family tree of the Houses of Aviz and Bragança who reigned over Portugal.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1721835211262538.webp

Again with Uncle-Niece marriages like Queen Maria I (known as Maria the Mad) and her uncle Peter III (previously Infante Pedro of Bragança).

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17218352115347285.webp

And here's a map of prevalence of cousin marriage nowadays. !antibharatiya

!historychads !ifrickinglovescience

Also !catholics what do you guys think of Dispensations?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avunculate_marriage#:~:text=An%20avunculate%20marriage%20is%20a,and%20their%20niece%20or%20nephew.

And of course here's the family tree of the House of Ptolemy

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1721835282373046.webp

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!nooticers why are muzzies and hindoos so fond of cousin-fricking?

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i knew this really trashy lebanese family - bribed their way into the country, all of them on benefits, plus working under the table, got that muzzie rizz that lets them scam so hard they were making workman's comp $$ while no one was declaring any income :marseydarkxd: tons of genetic health problems, legal issues, etc. !whitetrash the muzzies are kinda BTFOing us

the mom wanted both her kids to marry their cousins because "that way we know it's a good family" :mjlol: thankfully they were westernized enough to be like "wtf we grew up seeing them every day that's basically a sibling to me" which is still kinda a funny argument when it's about fricking your cousin - no they remind me too much of my brother!

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Because Bint 'amm marriage is traditional and permitted in the Quran.

I don't Know about Hindus but I think it was a pre-Islamic tribal practice anyway intended to consolidate resources in the family

Of course it made Pakis r-slurred but I guess they don't see it as a downside.

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If you compare India to Pakistan on the map, it's not impossible that India's hue is driven mostly by its muzzies rather than its Hindus.

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Because the Catholic Church forbids incest and classifies it as up to third degree cousins, these types of marriages required a papal dispensation

another instance in which !catholics morality is the root of modern secular belief :marseymanysuchcases: but they'll pretend till christ returns that it was something they came up with themselves.

fun fact there was a huge spike in incest marriage following the protestant reformation in all of the impacted countries.

@Corinthian love sucking peepee and reading

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Incest was illegal in Ancient Rome as well. Roman law forbade marriage between siblings, Parents and children, Uncles/Aunts and nieces/nephews, and grandparents with granchildren. They were generally disgusted by the Ptolemies.

Interesting bit about the protestants, do they allow first degree cousin marriage?

@ACA what mormons say about incest?

@Kasey how inbreed are you?

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in fairness to our non-catholic !christians I believe the current majority view of academic !historychads is that it largely just had to do with rolling back canon law, but yes cousin marriage was legalized and practiced in protestant countries including the usa. :marseycringe2:

@Corinthian love sucking peepee

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Catholics have big families so the incest :marseyfreud: is more easily hidden.


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I got tism bc the priest :marseyorthodoxsmug: wouldnt diddle me. :marseywhirlyhat:


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:marseyouroboros: and its EVERYTHING

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When will you wed your sister?

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He is the sister chud.

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Bans on first cousin marriage in the United States were started by protestants after the Civil War. It is still mostly legal on the east coast + a couple other states. Mormon states like Utah Nevada and Idaho ban it though.

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Protestantism went so hard on "The pope is not the boss of me" and "everybody should be married, it's wrong to be celibate, no nuns or monks or unmarried clergy" that they did roll back a lot of "you can't marry this person".

Martin Luther, who was an ex-monk who married an ex-nun, was so strong on this messaging that "everyone must be married" that in a sermon on marriage, he said - and I swear I'm not making this up - the equivalent of "the mean old pope says if you murder your spouse so you can marry your sidepiece, they won't let you get married as that would be a sin. Well the pope is wrong, God doesn't care, go ahead and get married". Guy was so big on "The pope is not the boss of me" he really went "yeah go ahead kill your husband or wife so you can marry that hottie, fine by me" 🤣

I looked it up again to make sure I hadn't imagined it and boy. The guy was really "it's fine to get married, no really, everyone has to get married, in fact if you're married and your husband can't do the deed, it's okay if you bigamously marry someone else who will knock you up":

>I once wrote down some advice concerning such persons for those who hear confession. It related to those cases where a husband or wife comes and wants to learn what he should do: his spouse is unable to fulfil the conjugal duty, yet he cannot get along without it because he finds that God's ordinance to multiply is still in force within him. Here they have accused me of teaching that when a husband is unable to satisfy his wife's sexual desire she should run to somebody else. Let the topsy-turvy liars spread their lies. The words of Christ and his apostles were turned upside down; should they not also turn my words topsy-turvy? To whose detriment it will be they shall surely find out.

>What I said was this: if a woman who is fit for marriage has a husband who is not, and she is unable openly to take unto herself another and unwilling, too, to do anything dishonorable since the pope in such a case demands without cause abundant testimony and evidence, she should say to her husband, "Look, my dear husband, you are unable to fulfil your conjugal duty toward me; you have cheated me out of my maidenhood and even imperilled my honor and my soul's salvation; in the sight of God there is no real marriage between us. Grant me the privilege of contracting a secret marriage with your brother or closest relative, and you retain the title of husband so that your property will not fall to strangers. Consent to being betrayed voluntarily by me, as you have betrayed me without my consent"

Oh yeah, Marty. "What I said was that the wife should ask permission to marry a lover, not that she should just frick him". That's a big difference. If he was alive today, he would be fine with polycules. Also cuckoldry. "Since you can't get it up, you give me permission to find a bull. Like your stud brother or cousin with the giant peepee unlike you, loser."

Anyway, here's his argument against what the Catholic Church ruled were impediments to marriage:

>The sixth impediment is crime. They are not in agreement as to how many instances of this impediment they should devise. However, there are actually these three: if someone lies with a girl, he may not thereafter marry her sister or her aunt, niece, or cousin; again, whoever commits adultery with a woman may not marry her after her husband's death; again, if a wife (or husband) should murder her spouse for love of another, she may not subsequently marry the loved one. Here it rains fools upon fools. Don't you believe them, and don't be taken in by them; they are under the devil's whip. Sins and crimes should be punished, but with other penalties, not by forbidding marriage. Therefore, no sin or crime is an impediment to marriage. David committed adultery with Bathsheba, Uriah's wife, and had her husband killed besides. He was guilty of both crimes; still he took her to wife and begot King Solomon by her [II Samuel 11], and without giving any money to the pope!

Yeah, you go ahead and knock that b-word up and take a hit out on her husband so you can marry her without the scandal of divorce! King David did it, it's in the Bible, so that means it's okay with God!

What a guy 🤣

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Mommy is soooo proud of you, sweaty. Let's put this sperg out up on the fridge with all your other failures.

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>His people didn't mysteriously emerge from the depths of South Pacific in the 50s, awakened by nuclear testing

NGMI

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>He didn't just fall out of a coconut tree

NGMI

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History is more or less bunk.

-- Henry Ford

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