[Started as a reply to some zoomer saying something stupid and spiraled out of control.]
Kennedy and his brother were really into telling the CIA to assassinate people overseas and do that kind of covert action in a dirty way. Everything you think is bad about glowies is probably something they ordered. Which makes it especially hilarious when tards claim that he, the least likely person on a planet of 3 billion people, was shot by the CIA because he didn't want them to assassinate people.
LBJ is responsible for getting us into Vietnam in the stupidest way possible, where it's treated as a crisis in the daily news cycle, not a war we're trying to win. And yet he keeps reinforcing failure, sending more and more guys there, dropping more and more bombs, killing more and more civilians. Drip by drip, make sure we're defeated in detail. Because we're not trying to win, we're just "sending a message" to them. Sorry b-word, but the guys fighting there, the Americans, the ARVN guys, the civilians, the NVA guys, they deserved to have more with their life than "sending a message" for him. The response from Hanoi was always "no frick off, we're trying to actually win the war." And LBJ was like an neurodivergent male feminist redditor hoping that maybe if he fed more guys into the meat grinder that she'd reply.
All this for a war that he doesn't believe we can win. And every time any adult points out that we might win if we go into Laos, he pisses his pants and says that's too scary for him. There's gotta be at least half a million people killed because of his moral cowardice. Sending the guys there with zero plan at all of what that they were doing except killing and dying to "send a message".
I still see r-slurred children today saying that "Henry Kissinger was a war criminal" because that was some hippie mantra. WTF does it even mean? I think originally it was trying to deflect blame from Pol Pot onto him or something. I guarantee you none of these tards know what it even was supposed to mean.
I never hear any kid today point out that we could have avoided this huge war and all the people killed on both sides and between them if Johnson had made literally any other decision. Either get out or go big and invade North Vietnam. He was too much of a kitty for the former because it would mean admitting a mistake. The latter would be risky but probably would be like 100,000 killed instead of the millions killed in the war and the genocide in Cambodia, and the next genocide in Cambodia when the Vietnamese did it. But he was too much of a kitty for that too.
The last one is ironic (Ed: BECAUSE IT'S THE OPPOSITE, IT'S A REPUBLICAN GETTING BLAMED FOR STUFF A DEMOCRAT DID): Reagan catches all this shit for sending weapons to Afghanistan and El Salvador. You know who started that, dumbass? Jimmy Carter. The Soviets decided to throw away detente, the attempt to lessen tensions between the superpowers in the 1970s, and just go back to full Stalinist map-painting mode like they're playing goddarn Hearts of Iron. Starting huge wars in Angola, Ethiopia, Nicaragua/El Salvador, invading Afghanistan, keeping their satellites going with Vietnam constantly fighting somebody. Those weapons weren't sent because Reagan, the actor who gets his face painted for his job, was more masculine than Carter, the nuclear submarine guy. It's because the Soviets started chimping out and you had to respond. But now leftoid kids think this was a bad thing so they assign blame for it to Reagan instead of Carter.
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Reading "Afgantsy" it amazes me how stupid the Afghan communists were. The Soviet Union actually preferred dealing with the King or the previous guy Daoud Khan who couped the King in 1973 over the commies. But after the communists took over the Soviets couldn't not back a "fellow" Marxist-Leninist regime.
The "People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan" was divided between a moderate left faction and a far left faction, the former being preferred by the Soviets as they knew Afghanistan's countryside was tribal and deeply religious (can't build a socialist state with that). But the leftoid faction dominated and decided to accelerate the land nationalization program, plus minority rights and promoting state atheism.
Obviously the Pashtun tribes and the mullahs denounced the godless atheistic communists and rose up against them just within months of their coup. That government never had any legitimacy, they only controlled 20% of the country in 1979 and spent a lot of time and bullets killing moderate leftoids. After President Tarik was removed and killed the Russians decided to invade and force a regime change to place the "parcham" faction into power.
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Same thing with Chico. Stalin hated Mao, and preferred dealing with Chiang. Chiang was done with the commies after they kept trying to subvert and coup the government though, and Mao planted himself firmly within the CCP power structure, so Stalin was stuck with Mao
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If you want a fun military history collection on Afghanistan, try The Bear Went over the Mountain. It's a collection of translated after action reports the US got once the Cold War ended. Paints a fascinating picture of how aimless everything seemed for the boots on the ground, and should have been a warning to burgers post-9/11.
The Beast is also good kino about a tank crew in the conflict.
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omg! Yeah it was so insane that they convinced themselves the CIA must be behind it because these people couldnt really be that r-slurred
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Might as well call that group anti humans. Pretty sure the only commies all 4 Jannie's went to the new bluecry offshoot of this site
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