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The data are stark: the typical American diet is shortening the lives of many Americans. Diet-related deaths outrank deaths from smoking, and about half of U.S. deaths from heart disease -- nearly 900 deaths a day -- are linked to poor diet. The pandemic highlighted the problem, with much worse outcomes for people with obesity and other diet-related diseases.
"We're really in a nutrition crisis in this country." says Dariush Mozaffarian, a cardiologist and dean of the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University
Now, there's growing momentum to tackle this problem. The Biden administration will hold the White House Conference on Hunger, Nutrition, and Health on September 28th, and will announce a new national strategy. This comes more than 50 years after a landmark White House conference which helped launch today's major federal food assistance programs.
"The 1969 conference was transformative," Mozaffarian says. The programs it ushered in, like the WIC program, have helped feed millions of low-income families.
But this hasn't been enough to solve the dual problems of food insecurity and diet-related disease. Food policy leaders say it's time to think anew and build on what we've learned. The U.S. can't "fix" hunger by just feeding people cheap, high-calorie, processed foods -- the food that's so abundant in our food supply, they say. Instead, it's got to find ways to nourish people with healthy, nutrient-dense foods.
"There's a lot of enthusiasm and thinking about food more broadly and how we can fix this crisis," Mozaffarian told NPR. He's co-chair of an independent task force that includes doctors, chefs, food policy and business experts, as well as farming and health advocates, who are helping form the agenda at upcoming the White House conference.
In a new report, they've proposed a wide-ranging set of recommendations to end hunger, advance nutrition and improve health. Here are seven big ideas they're excited about.
1. Treat food as medicine
There's a growing movement to integrate food and nutrition into health care, by providing healthy meals and groceries to patients to help prevent or manage diet-related illness.The task force wants to see this kind of work expand.
"We should pay for food-based interventions that are effective," Mozaffarian says.
For example, there's mounting evidence that providing prescriptions for fruit and vegetables can spur people to eat better and manage weight and blood sugar. The idea is for health care systems or insurers to provide or pay for healthy groceries, combined with nutrition education, to help patients change their eating habits. It is being piloted around the country.
"Produce prescription programs help improve diet quality and food security," says task force member Dr. Hilary Seligman, a food insecurity expert and professor of medicine at University of California, San Francisco, noting that they can help with diet-related diseases like high blood pressure and diabetes.
Another idea is to offer medically tailored meals aimed at helping people who are already sick reverse chronic disease. Currently the federal government is running pilot programs that let Medicaid or Medicare pay for the meals in several states.
2. Focus on quality of calories, not just quantity
The U.S. food supply is awash in cheap calories. And when you're on a tight budget or relying on benefits like SNAP (food stamps), processed foods like chips and soda can set you back less than fresh produce. Of course, eating processed foods also contributes to cardiovascular disease, stroke, diabetes and other chronic illnesses, warns Nancy Brown, CEO of the American Heart Association.
Brown says federal food assistance programs have helped to address hunger. "However, many U.S. food policies and programs focus on improving access to sufficient quantities of food," she says. Instead, it's time to modernize these policies and focus on the *quality of food, "*so people have access to enough nutritious food."
The task force wants to see food programs redesigned to nudge people towards healthier options. The report points to the GusNIP nutrition incentive program -- which, in select communities -- gives SNAP participants more money to buy fruit and vegetables. It's a similar concept to the Double Bucks program which doubles the value of SNAP benefits when used to buy produce at farmers markets and other venues.
"It is important to scale up these efforts to ensure that everyone has access to healthy food options," says task force member Angela Odoms-Young, a nutrition professor at Cornell University.
The task force recommends that Congress establish a nationwide produce incentive program for all SNAP participants. "These types of programs can help promote equity," Odoms-Young says, noting that people of color disproportionately suffer from chronic illnesses.
3. Expand access to dietary and lifestyle counseling
The Affordable Care Act mandates that diet counseling be covered by insurers as a preventive care benefit for those at higher risk of chronic disease. The exact details of who is eligible for which services are left up to an advisory group of doctors and health care providers, as well as insurers, and many patients who would benefit may not have access to this service.
"The vast majority of Americans should be getting preventative behavioral lifestyle treatment," Mozaffarian says. Too often, he says, doctors prescribe drugs for conditions before recommending or trying lifestyle changes. "Doctors go right to the drug," he says. "I think that's a big problem."
The task force recommends that Congress expand Medicare and Medicaid coverage for medical nutrition therapy to people with high blood pressure, prediabetes, celiac disease, HIV/AIDS, cancer and other diet-related conditions. It also calls for expanded coverage of cooking classes and nutrition assistance, as well as coverage of the Diabetes Prevention Program, delivered by telehealth. This behavior-change program has been shown to be more effective than medicine in reducing the onset of Type 2 diabetes among people at high risk.
4. Support food entrepreneurs
People who start food businesses can help nourish their communities and create jobs. The task force calls on the federal government to pass policies that boost new healthy food enterprises, including providing new loans and grants to food and nutrition-related companies centered on health, equity, and sustainability. The idea is to focus especially on businesses owned by people of color and other marginalized groups.
"We don't need more businesses creating diabetes and obesity," says Tambra Raye Stevenson, who runs Wanda, a non-profit group that aims to build a pipeline and platform for a million Black women and girls to become local food leaders. "We need entrepreneurs that provide teaching kitchens, community gardens, healthy food retails, wellness studios, nutrition services, healthy consumer products, and urban agricultural centers," she says.
She points to food entrepreneurs like Amanda Stephenson who opened a specialty food market in an underserved neighborhood in Washington, DC, Fresh Food Factory, and Mary Blackford of Market 7 who is planning a food hall that features Black-owned food and lifestyle businesses. "They are our food she-roes making a positive impact and providing healthy food access for our children and other women," says Stevenson.
In the lead up to next month's White House conference, groups like Food Tank, a food think tank, have organized listening sessions with food researchers and entrepreneurs. "For food to be more accessible and affordable, we need entrepreneurs that use science and technology," says Danielle Nierenberg of Food Tank. She points to innovators like Journey Foods which is helping entrepreneurs bring nutritious foods and snacks to market.
5. Increase the number of new farmers growing healthy foods using regenerative farming techniques
If all Americans began to eat the recommended amounts of fruits and vegetables each day, there would be shortages. That's because corn and soybeans are grown on most cropland in the U.S.. Now, there's growing recognition of the need for more specialty crops - including fruits, vegetables, and nuts.
The task force recommends that Congress create a Farmer Corps to support new farmers, building on the Beginning Farmers and Ranchers Development Program. The idea is to provide new farmers with paid internships and apprenticeships to learn about sustainable farming, and funding to cover a living wage and housing. It also is pushing for loans to go to farmers growing with sustainable practices.
Growing the same crop, season after season, as many farmers do, can make lands less productive over time, and deplete nutrients from the soil."The unfortunate reality is that today we subsidize conventional practices that degrade the soil,"says David Montgomery, a professor at the University of Washington and the author of What Your Food Atewho attended a listening session.
"What we need to sustain agriculture is to incentivize restoring healthy soils and train more farmers to be successful doing that," he says.
6. Make school meals free for all students
School meals have been a fixture in U.S. schools ever since President Harry Truman signed the National School Lunch Act back in 1946. For decades, the federal government has reimbursed schools for meals they serve, and low-income students can qualify for free or reduced priced meals. Research has shown that low-income children who participate have better health.
Yet, many families who are eligible for free or reduced-priced meals may not receive them, sometimes due to the paperwork, bureaucracy or stigma of participating or enrolling. Amid the pandemic, school meals have been offered for free to all students. Now, the task force says this should be a permanent change.
"Without access to free meals at school, many children go without food at all during the day, and many more do not have access to the nutritious foods they need to thrive,' says Seligman, of UC, San Francisco. She notes that school meals help not only with kids' nutrition, but they also reduce absenteeism and improve academic outcomes.
7. Establish a federal 'food czar'
In order to turn ideas like these into action, the task force recommends the creation of a new role in the federal government, a national director of food and nutrition, a food czar figure, if you will. The new director would help streamline and coordinate the many disparate efforts already underway. The U.S. government spends more than $150 billion each year on food and nutrition related programs, and the health care system also spends billions on treatment of diet related diseases.
"This spending is fragmented across 200 separate actions and 21 different departments and agencies without harmonization or synergy," the task force concludes. Now, they conclude, it's time for a new approach.
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THE 👏 SOLUTION 👏 MUST 👏 ALWAYS 👏 INVOLVE 👏 A 👏 JOBS 👏 PROGRAM 👏 FOR 👏 OTHERWISE 👏 UNEMPLOYABLE 👏 WHITE 👏 WOMEN
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Or how about 'food czar'? Americans will surely eat better once Michelle Obama tells people that celery is less deadly than Doritos.
The solution is clear: we must source the fatties for limitless soap
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Literally this. There's so much information constantly bombarded at every one about how to eat healthier on a budget or with special dietary needs and yet they're always has to be some sort of fricking consultant or some shit
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This but unironically. When unemployment is high society becomes unstable.
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8. Lock obese "people" in a cell with a very narrow entrance
Only feed them hardtack and water until they're skinny enough to escape. Threaten to lock them up again if they gain too much weight.
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Exactly my inspiration!
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why feed them at all? IIRC, one hamgalaxy went on a water + multivitamin only diet for like 11 months and was fine
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They'll just crave food and get fat again once they escape. Feeding them hardtack full of weevils will hopefully make them more adverse to food in general (or at least carbs).
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For some, alcohol can change hunger into just a constant dull stomach ache that can't be cured by food, there should be vodka in the anti-obese monasteries
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Most alcoholics are obese fatsos, I don’t think that’d work
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Alcohol is very high calorie at addict levels of intake.
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At severe alcoholism levels, you're actually going to be skinny as frick because 1. you stop eating food so the drinks hit harder 2. your liver is so fricked you probably can't absorb much nutrition anyway 3. it's not like you could keep food down anyways.
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Stim-maxxing destroys your appetite. Perscribe a beta-blocker for the increased vasculature load and greatly lower blood pressure + 40mg of amphetamine a day = 200% productivity and 10,000% more fat loss per day. I'll collect my nobel prize at the door.
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Doing it for a year is definitely enough to build up a life-long habit.
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11 months is fricking wild. Most can’t even do 11 hours at once. Sorta proud of that hammy for losing the weight
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9. Make it illegal for any fork (or other eating utensil) to weigh less than 20lbs.
Can't keep eating if you can't pick up the fork.
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Or lock the food in said cell.
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It’s wild how the most effective advice is to just stop eating as much and no one ever mentions it. Food desert this, food insecurity that, bro just fricking stop drinking soda and you’ll feel better
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some people cannot fathom "a tall glass of fruit juice is not the same as eating a fruit"
someone quit soda and then a few weeks later nearly made themselves broke thickest, most sugary, "real fruit" drink they could find at the grocery store
"why no lose weight >:("
"well fruit is good for you actually so I can drink all i want without worrying about it like soda because it's not empty calories it's got real fruit... so I'm glad I don't drink soda anymore"
DRINK THE WATER ONLY.... NO SNACKS-- NOT EVEN THAT SNACK! NO!
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The worst part is, if they just made it themselves, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.
I love lemonade, but the store bought stuff has way too much sugar. So I make it myself. A third of the calories, and it actually tastes like lemon, not sugar water that's been in the general vicinity of a lemon.
But these fat-asses are too lazy to even make the food they continuously shovel into their gaping maws. They want it all handed to them, ready to eat right that second.
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I like sweet tea with 1/3 of the sugar of the classic home recipe, and 1/10 the sugar of the corn syrup slop that somewhere like McDonalds sells as tea
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No soda make me want to drink it regularly (1L of coke would last a week or so) but iced tea man.
At least I have some self control (being too lazy to go out and buy some), couldn't imagine drinking as much as fat burgers do.
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Try black tea with milk only. No sugar. You only need a shot of milk for a cup. It tastes good.
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I like black tea with milk only but not cold
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You can drink tea without any kind of sweetener.
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Fruit in general isn't even that good for you, it's just plants that have been selectively breed to be natural candy. Fruit is always compared against a snickers bar or soda, as if that benchmark is high.
The actual sad state of affairs is that a proper healthy diet of 50% meat is too expensive for the government so they play make believe with everyone being able to live off of fruit and vegetables.
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true
but eating more eggs, legumes, mushrooms, and nuts VS chemically processed grain + corn syrup combinations would still go a long way tho
(by nuts I don't mean everyone drinks expensive almond milk, I mean peanuts, pecans, walnuts, and whatever grows in ur area)
growing mushrooms is fun, should be more common
go to the sawmill -> get a bag hardwood saw dust for literally dirt cheap (price comparable to bag of dirt) -> maybe mix coffee grounds -> buy spore plug online -> add water -> 2 weeks (for oyster mushrooms lol) -> mushroom
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um...it's fruit juice, ya dip butt. it's like eating multiple fruits. IT'S RIGHT IN THE NAME.
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I guess it might be somewhat equivalent if you dump a bunch of psyllium husk fiber into it.
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i'm currently drinking a watermelon lemonade snapple. i'm getting SO HEALTHY right now.
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Snackcels coping hard at this
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Personal responsibility is fascism sweaty.
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They forgot the two most important ideas.
Without those two crucial steps, I don't think the plan has much merit.
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More peaceful solution that will lead to more sneeding is a fat tax. Annual testing required, $10,000 carbon emissions tax for anyone who is obese.
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Not a bad idea, but try getting people to actually give a shit about the latter first.
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It's dumb, you should be focusing on both. Telling these morons not to worry about quantity of calories is r-slurred.
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rational solutions
totalitarian superstare
Redditors smh
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goldstein sama is so cute ~ what a cute nose... urs is fine to tho
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0. Don't Be A Fatty
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11: heighten inflation so poors can’t afford food
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I used to love NPR so so much, what happened?
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2016 broke literally everything.
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I actually think 2016 didn't immediately break NPR, it was the election what else would you talk about other than Trump? I think 2017 or so really ruined NPR, even after the election they kept talking only about trump, literally nothing except trump and other RETHUGLIKKKAN evildoers.
At least they have toned down the politics talk to having about 1 break from it a day, and I think Saturday still has Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, but when I was listening recently they had a disclaimer about some guest they had on about how he was a trumper!!!!!
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I can't go five minute with NPR without yelling at my radio and looking like a psychopath.
Almost every segment is
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NPR used to be liberal but sounded pleasant. Relaxing articulate conversation and reporting
Now its a bunch of whiney women and gay butt sounding "men." How tf did it happen so fast
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Stop subsidizing corn and make extra large goyslop expensive like cigs. Introduce BMI tax brackets and negative tax credits for having fat kids. Codify and encourage fat shaming. Make military service compulsory for fats. Telling people to eat lettuce and cut soda will never work.
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No. All the fats in the military never fricking changed, were always on profile, and found excuses to get out of basic work cause "muh shin splints".
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Not in my mandatory conscription!
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So, like, a tax?
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Sorry but Biden said no one gets meal money unless girl peepee's can helicopter in the bathroom
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Yes, as it was meant to be.
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I am beyond shocked that this government plan (edit: uhh okay task force recommendation i guess) actually sounds really good.
Extra bennies for eating fruit and veggies, insurance coverage for healthy foods for when healthy foods work as a treatment, subsidizing healthier food crops instead of nothing but corn, etc. I'm sure the govt will frick it up somehow but this genuinely sounds great on paper.
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Stop me from eating hog gut for breakfast with a newsicle. I dare you.
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I will take literally anything that isn't someone telling me I need to eat bugs at this point
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How does this support the thesis on making the US eat healthier, even by their own logic. Maybe we should make assault weapons illegal to lower sodium intake while we're at it.
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Fat Camps when
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The soyslop corn syrup illuminati overlords are not going to be happy about this. There is a reason why there is garbage on 65% of the shelves in burgerland
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Yeah let's just waste money on a program trying to entice people to buy more fruits and veggies even though most people on SNAP don't want to eat healthy and most choose not to.
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Or just tax the shit outta any place that serves a meal over 650 cals
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Maybe they will finally decide if whole foods cholesterol is a problem or not. There are millions of people suffering with the misery of eating egg whites right now even though the data on yolk consumption doesn't show any link between eggs and chaleserol levels.
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jfc just stop eating so much
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Just send em to Fitmo
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