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The fricking Rampant Islamophobia here is a fricking real problem. : askgaybros

https://old.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/1bm6iec/the_rampant_islamophobia_here_is_a_real_problem/ 

								

								

									
									

									
								

							

							

								
									
								
							

							

								
	

							

						

						
						

							

								
							

						

					

					
						

							
							
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context, I (a gay Muslim male)
i can't read past this because it's too fricking funny lmao

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Thank you for posting this. All of the Abrahamic religions have anti-queer rhetoric yet somehow Islam gets all the hate on this subreddit as if all Muslims have an issue with gay people when there are obviously some who don't. Scriptures are open to interpretation - don't condemn an entire religion with reactionary hate to some bigots.
If 95% of your followers are bigots, it's only logical to see islam for what it is: organised bigotry
Please explain why the hate on here is so disproportionately skewed towards Muslims. There are plenty of groups that don't get as much hate on this subreddit despite being homophobic. Roman Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Mormons - all anti-lgtbq. Many non-Muslim countries like those in the Caribbean have made it illegal and Russia just labelled our community as an act of terrorism. I'm an atheist - but I would never retaliate to hate with hate, what do you achieve by being an Islamophobic pos?
I sometimes wonder about guys like this. Does he genuinely not understand that if he walks into a church in Malta, Cape Verde, or East Timor and tells the local priest he's gay, the priest might tell him he's going to Heck, but he's not gonna send him there himself? But if he does the same in a mosque in Tunisia, Senegal, or Indonesia, he's not guaranteed that same level of consideration from the local imam? Or is he well aware of that, but pretends he isn't because the people he's aligned himself with politically have decided Catholics are worse than Sunnis, so he feels obligated to pretend they're also at least as homophobic, if not more so? :marseygigathonk:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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They generally think the homophobia they've experienced, and by experienced it's often secondhand generalisations rather than direct, is the worst it gets. A white person called them a cute twink once and gay marriage was legalised in their lifetime so all Christians are homophobic and all homophobia is equally evil.
Being gay is illegal, even punishable by death, in many countries still. Other than Russia, they're inevitably nonwhite and/or non-Christian countries. But for people like this, who think it's queer praxis to hate Repulicans more than racial minorities, accepting that nonwhites might hate them far more than the people who merely tolerate them breaks their solipsism.
It's like how Queers For Palestine is ultimately a narcissistic movement, because they just can't fathom that anyone they're not rebelling against could possibly think differently to them. Victims = good people = people who share their beliefs, no matter what they say. They lack real empathy.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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The gay community is a minority which cannot opress the second largest religion in the world.
This makes me realize that there are more muslims in the world than Jews, which makes for a really funny point about Israel-Palestine.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Are there more gay Muslims than Jews? Because that would be a funny matchup.
I suspect the gay Muslims might do a better job, but then the current set of Muslim countries aren't really trying to do anything other than milk propaganda. Israel has nukes though anyway, they aren't going anywhere no matter how fabulously gay their opponents might be

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Are there more gay Muslims than Jews?
There are at least 1.8 billion Muslims and less than 16 million Jews. If we figure ~3% of people are gay, regardless of religion, that's 54 million gay Muslims. Even if we drop it to 1%, that's still 18 million. :pepemath:
So yes, there are more gay Muslims in the world than there are Jews of any sexual orientation. :marseysalutepride:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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We also have no idea if there are more or less than 3% of Muslims who are gay, because the vast vast majority of them will never come out due to fear for their lives. Meanwhile, most gay Jews aren't nearly as afraid to come out. :marseyhmm:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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That's so funny. I feel there's a solution in there somewhere
Israeli/gay Muslim alliance
Saying that, I bet Israel has more openly gay Muslims than any or even all of the surrounding nations

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Are there more gay Muslims than Jews?
Jewish pop is 15.7 million. Muslim pop is 1.9 billion, so 120 times larger. I think that even the most conservative estimates would put the gay population at least at 1%, so it's very likely there are more gay Muslims than Jews total.
However, the amount of out gay Muslims in the US is less than 1% so it's also safe to say that the number of out gay Muslims is lower than total Jews.

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Is this a :marseyattentionseeker: ? Choosing to be gay when Muslims are some of the chuddiest people lol
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:#marseymuslimitsover: :#marseylaughpoundfist:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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Will this post revert when your award wears off, or will it always be edgified ?

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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You're insulting me because:
You cannot back up your claims
You logically cannot process that I'm right and you're wrong.
You're of limited intelligence
And since everything in your life seems to be done for you, you cannot make your own cogent argument.
Go ahead and call me more names and tell me I'm a prime suspect for your reeducation camps. Those will only exist in your imagination as there will be no revolution because you have no revolutionaries and almost none of the weapons, certainly very little battlefield experience. How do you imagine you'd win a revolution against me?
Snapshots:
https://old.reddit.com/r/askgaybros/comments/1bm6iec/the_rampant_islamophobia_here_is_a_real_problem/:

						


						
							

							

								
									
								
							


							

								
	

							


							

								

									

										
										

									


								
						

					
				


				

				
					
	

	
		

			
		


		

			

				
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