https://old.reddit.com/r/mensfashionadvice/comments/16uwrkc/is_this_appropriate_for_an_apprenticeship
I don't want to seem pretentious/overdressed, also is it better buttoned up or over the shoulders?
Imagine doing an interview with a prospective intern and he walks in with this jacket on his shoulders, thumbs behind his suspenders 
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The tie just needs to touch your belt buckle, no more, no less. This isn't hard.
Tie a thicc Windsor if you have too much slack
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