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This is early-modern but it's both an anti-catholic and anti-spanish hate-fact so I'll let it slide.
Spain and portugal are the same thing btw
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In my favorite book about this era there's a letter from a Portuguese factory in India right after Spain had conquered their homeland. They wrote to say that they hate Spain so fricking much that they'd rather swear allegiance to the Ottomans.
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Any other interesting stories from the book?
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There's a lot. Antichrist baby is a great one. Way more interesting than Ibram X. Kendi's Antiracist Baby.
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How is this anti-catholic or anti-spanish? This is a pro-inquisition post
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Early modern times started 1517 when Luther the hair-splitting pedant decided to ruin Europe. If he was born today he would probably be a referee at a Warhammer tournament or something.
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peasants rock
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Papists like to b-word and moan about how they didn't burn that many people. They've got statistics to show when they were officially burning people alive with all their pomp and popery and mystical chanting after a show trial, it wasn't that huge of a number. It's like clerical celibacy, heterosexuality, not banging every boy/girl at the court of the King of France. They only think it's wrong if you're doing it officially without your fingers crossed behind your back.
Also I got a first person account of an auto de fe at Seville in the 1500s in one of my old boomer books that I gotta type up sometime. They only burn one person but they sentence about 20 to slavery for crimes like being a Jew, being a Lutheran, saying that maybe Christians and Muslims aren't really all that different...
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If they were burned, they deserved it. God's will bby
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Based and Darrell Brooks' closing arguments-pilled.
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The defense calls the State of Wisconsin.
I am not Darrell Brooks, I am a third party intervener, here on behalf of my client
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Interesting, because God's Will went down in history as the losers' cry of battle. Some things never change.
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What's the book called? I read one recently called The Cheese and the Worms which was about the beliefs of a nice Italian commoner miller named Menocchio who learned how to read, borrowed some books, then started sharing all these new ideas he had thought of about the universe and God. That got him hauled in for heresy by the inquisition, where he unwisely tried to explain his views and was promptly burned at the stake. Hate to think of how many normal people with some outside the box thoughts and no idea what they were getting into ended up brutally punished by puppets of the protocols of the cardinals of V*tican City.
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It's this. The Fugger bankers accumulated all kinds of letters from around the world so it's basically a dramanaut's social media feed from the late 1500s. Lots of gossip about the Queen of Poland fricking a gigolo, Francis Drake vs. the Spanish armada, religious wars across Europe, visiting Istanbul, the King of France ordering all college students out of the streets on pain of death, protestants making lewd remarks at nuns about how they should come out and get married.
Some professor at Portland State must have had this as required reading because there's always a million copies at Powell's.
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Drake didnβt really fight the armada though, he just raided the Spanish Main and caused massive Latinx seethe everywhere he went.
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That's what's so funny about it. People across Europe were treating the campaign like it was a personal duel between Drake and Phillip II. I guess low-information normies back then were just like they are today. They had to latch on to someone with name recognition and understand things that way.
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Good choice tbh
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I think we still suffer from this today. Actual outside the box thoughts can make people really uncomfortable, or feel safe. I imagine the inquisitors felt deeply threatened somehow by that world view. Not only that, when outside the box thinking happens, it is no guarantee those thoughts will ever even become words, or actions. This is what truly makes me sad: that human insight is everywhere, and new ideas are around us, coming out of humans all the time, but they are destined to never be exploited and understood to their full potential.
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Reading about his case all I see is a 16th century sperg unwilling to shut up about his Bible fan fictions
Natural selection selects for pro social behaviors in humans like conformism and not asking too many questions
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And? It's a pretty tame punishment for those crimes. We should do the same too people who deny that trans lives matter.
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Frick off prot scum
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If it happened before the reformation then it's protestant history too
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Protestant history is basically strip mall churches and Joel Osteen. We didn't burn enough tbqh
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Should've burnt that one tbh
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Ummm I think there's a logical explanation for this, guise NOOOOO don't heckin set me on fire!!!
Based peasants knew how to deal with the original deboonkers
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this is what they used to do with redditors who can't read the room.
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This is how the autists were filtered back in the day
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Reminder that the Reconquista was among the greatest things to ever happen, the Battle of Tours was God's will on earth, and the Crusaders did nothing wrong aside from one pit stop in Constantinople (which was the Venetian's fault )
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The Byzantines deserved it.
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What was better, Reconquista or the Conquest of Mexico?
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Hmm hard to say. The Muslims were dirty heretics who sullied the remains of the great Christian Empire of Constantine, but the Aztecs literally sacrificed thousands, displayed their skulls, and ate them.
Saying either answer is considered a nono these days, but frick anyone who considers the Aztecs good people. They literally ripped kids' fingernails out and drowned them alive to appease their "gods. " Muslims goaded people into conversions with taxes and enslaved women. Aztecs were objectively worse
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I kinda think the Aztecs were good people, but not in a woooo letβs go indijenus muh colonizer bad kind of way. I think it was fricking awesome their whole society and worldview fell apart as the result of one expedition and one guy essentially (Cortez).
But I also think it is sorta lazy to just write them off as freaks and evil because of their practices. If you look closely at modern practices today there are plenty of horrific sacrifices and pointless murders, that kind of cruelty is everywhere. I think the same things that caused Aztecs to sacrifice exist in all humans, Aztec society was just one of the ones to turn that particular dial up to 11 and we canβt say exactly why.
Moctezuma was by our standards a horrible dude, he was a cannibal, ordered thousands of peopleβs deaths to make the sun rise every day and he would have been the one of the people who splashed the fresh blood on the idol as ritual. But at the same time, the Spanish developed a bond with him where they joked, played games, found common ground and the Spanish soldiers even cried when he was killed. Iβve been reading books from the 1500s that really humanize these people, and also at the same time they confuse the heck out of me how they could be so evil and beautiful at the same time. But then again all people are like that.
Wish it wasnβt, these sorts of topics donβt get enough space in current discussion, even though I find them highly relevant.
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There's literally no difference between good and evil.
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The acts charged with the most ultimate evil have also been charged with the important and beautiful feelings to the ones who carried out those acts. So yes? But also no. Itβs a question that is at the heart of life and I donβt claim to have an answer, there is no
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And to think you could have just stayed quiet, but you decided to type something even more incoherent than I could imagine you capable of.
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Conquest of Mexico was awesome, imagine conquering a whole country with a shipful of people
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it was about five or seven ships worth of people and Cortez later intercepted a Spanish landing force of equal amount near Veracruz that were sent to arrest him but decided to follow him as well as his native allies who outnumbered the Spaniards.
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2 things. They didn't beat the shit out of Philip II when he played sick to go home early.
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It's homoousian not homoiousian and I will literally kill you for saying otherwise
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that's not even a real word
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Nowadaya he'd get paid for this shit. We have to go back
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Umm sweaty, THE EXPERTS (lifelong Catholics) fact checked the misinformation by the obvious Jewish troll.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences!
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Snapshots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_massacre:
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1900 deaths
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They are beating up autists I don't see the problem.
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Haha this is funny. No wonder Spanish Catholics went nuts conquering Mexico, the religion side of this is massive I guess.
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I mean if I saw my comrades get sacrificed alive (Day of Sorrows) I would be pissed too, though they were relatively well behaved compared than Tlaxcalteca soldiers or Spaniards during some Reconquista campaigns.
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Yea the Tlaxcalans were fricking brutal, I love reading about how the Spanish tried to control them in the war but that it never worked. Bernal Diaz del Castillo writes that during the Conquest the Tlaxcalans promised not to do human sacrifices or worship idols but by the time he died it was clear they were lying about quitting all that. Native thought was just too powerful, and he couldnβt do much about it since they were supposed to be the allies.
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this is why you dont let jews convert
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i mean, its their lore
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And thats why jews notice things and dont mention it to you soyim
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