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Elon Musk — who rails against 'illegals in America' — worked illegally in U.S.: report - r/MarchAgainstTrump

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!nonchuds !khive rules for thee but not for me

Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk --- the world's wealthiest man --- has come out harshly against undocumented immigrants since becoming one of former President Donald Trump's biggest donors and campaign surrogates. But a new report reveals that he launched his career in the United States without legal status.

The Washington Post is now reporting that Musk was illegally staying in the U.S. on a student visa despite dropping out of school. While Musk, who is from South Africa, emigrated to attend Stanford University, he called his department chair shortly after the fall 1995 semester began to inform him that he wouldn't be attending classes.

At that point, Musk was legally obligated to leave the United States, according to the Post. But instead, he illegally overstayed his visa while building his first company, Zip2 (originally called the Global Link Information Network).

Eventually, venture capital firm Mohr Davidow Ventures made a $3 million investment into Zip2 in 1996. Upon learning that both Musk and his brother, Kimbal, didn't have legal status to be in the United States, the funding agreement included a clause that stipulated Mohr could claw back its investment if the two didn't obtain a legal work visa within 45 days.

"Their immigration status was not what it should be for them to be legally employed running a company in the U.S.," Zip2 board member Derek Proudian told the paper. "We don't want our founder being deported."

Because U.S. immigration records aren't public, determining when Musk's immigration status changed is difficult to ascertain. However, the Post cited two different biographers who wrote that Mohr ultimately arranged for an attorney to line up visas for both Elon and Kimbal Musk in 1996. This means both he and his brother were technically illegal immigrants for the better part of a year. This is particularly noteworthy, as Elon Musk has used his social media platform X (formerly Twitter) to regularly launch attacks against and spread disinformation about undocumented immigrants.

"*llegals in America can get bank loans, mortgages, insurance, driver's licenses, free healthcare (California & New York) and in-state college tuition," Musk tweeted in February. "What's the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits, but doesn't pay taxes or do jury duty?"

The Post's reported that Musk's colleagues confirmed that he drove a car during the period in which he was in the United States illegally, meaning he would have needed both a driver's license and auto insurance in order to do so. The report also confirms what Kimbal Musk said in a 2013 interview, when saying that he and his brother "were illegal immigrants" when their company landed the $3 million investment from Mohr. Elon didn't use that exact phrasing, but rather said that their status "was a grey area."

Despite making a promise in March to refrain from endorsing a presidential candidate, Elon Musk has not only appeared onstage with Trump, but is now his second-biggest campaign donor. Forbes reported earlier this week that Musk has donated roughly $118 million to a pro-Trump super PAC. His largesse is outpaced only by Timothy Mellon, who had given $150 million to the former president's 2024 bid for the White House.

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If they are actually literally a rocket scientist or a doctor (lawyers can frick off) then i say let em in

!chuds

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Iykyk

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*If they're white let them in

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>If they're white let them in

Not if they look like this:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16824698250689843.webp !pedohunters !downmarseyrs !nonchuds

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"white"

only reason whites are acceptable is because there aren't enough annoying non-english speaking ones reproducing enough to become annoying

If half of Alabama started speaking Latvian because they reproduced at the Palestinian rate it would suddenly become an emergency

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>Iykyk

If you keep yourself safe, kool!

:#marseythumbsup2:

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:#marseycool2:

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he wasn't either. he has to go back

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Paperclip maximizer/Cuck-o's basilisk?

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>fence hoppers and rich boys overstaying visas because they're neurodivergentally building a company is the same. I am very intelligent.

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>laws only apply to poors

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As it should be.

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You can own a machine gun if you pay the tax stamp

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It's not quite that simple and you know it. :marseysmughipskorean:

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I mean you cant be openly r-slurred

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:marseyitsover:

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yes

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Yes. It's how our system works. Unfortunately.

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This but unironically

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Yes. Were you born yesterday?

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this but unironically

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...

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how poor

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Okay, so 1 out of 35 million times someone comes into the country illegally oh wait, he didn't. 1 out of 50 million times someone overstays a visa, they go on to found a multi-billion dollar company. I guess we shouldn't have laws anymore.

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Hypocrisy is disgusting

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Agree :marseythumbsup6: https://media.tenor.com/8kOQ356LBnMAAAAx/nyxl-spiderman.webp

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15 Images That Will Make You Say, "Frick Borders And Shit"

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frick COUNTRY borders,

not state, they are sancterious

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Why do they hate African Americans?

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At that point, Musk was legally obligated to leave the United States, according to the Post. But instead, he illegally overstayed his visa while building his first company, Zip2 (originally called the Global Link Information Network).

WHAT THE HECK WAS HE DOING?! HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE COLLECTING HIS WELFARE CHECK OR WORKING FOR A SHIT WAGE FOR SOME MEGA CORPORATION!!!!

:#soyjaktantrumfast:

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"[I]llegals in America can get bank loans, mortgages, insurance, driver's licenses, free healthcare (California & New York) and in-state college tuition," Musk tweeted in February. "What's the point of being a citizen if an illegal gets all the benefits, but doesn't pay taxes or do jury duty?"

so did musk do any of those things lol

the same article says when his company tried to get an investment the first requirement the investors made was him getting a work visa within 45 days, which they did

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sneaking in the country and never becoming a citizen and overstaying a visa then becoming a citizen are literally the exact same things. musk is such a hypocrite.

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This is old news. He thinks there was a grey area in immigration law that allowed him to start a company, there was not, and that asking for a deferment meant his visa was still valid, it was not

He had two opportunities to disclose to INS/USCIS he had violated immigration law; his EB5 application and his N400 application. USCIS can absolutely denaturalize and deport him for not doing so. That would be peak drama coin.

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Yeah, one of the few times the US can straight up revoke citizenship is when someone obtained it via fraud

Under the 14th Amendment, the government cannot revoke the citizenship of a natural-born U.S. citizen. Even brown ones.

Naturalized citizens are different:

During all stages of your naturalization process, but especially the naturalization interview, you must not lie. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) might not detect dishonesty at first. But the agency may file a denaturalization action against you at any time. This includes the period after you gain citizenship.

Examples of offenses include failure to disclose criminal activities or lying about your identity. Failure to disclose any material fact can have severe negative consequences for people seeking U.S. citizenship. It is particularly bad when such a failure involves willful misrepresentation. This also extends to your time as a lawful permanent resident.

If it is found that you lied to a government official at any point in your immigration journey, it could lead to having your citizenship revoked.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) may file lawsuits against naturalized U.S. Citizens to strip them of their citizenship on two grounds:

They obtained citizenship illegally, or they lied on their citizenship application, affidavit, or to a consular official

Also presenting false info on a federal form or during an interview with a federal officer is a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, which is the same law that got Martha Stewart since they couldn't convict her on anything else

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They didn't get Martha on insider trading?

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Nah not enough evidence, but they got her to tell a lie during the investigative interview

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/how-lying-to-the-u-s-government-can-43874/

"I can't find anything linking this r-slur to the other case, but he did lie and say he didn't have lunch on the 16th with Peepees McGee for no apparent reason. I guess we can still get a good public image for bringing the evil chud/shitlib to justice"

You'll never talk your way out of trouble, only into more of it. Never assume any questions for a sworn statement are innocent formalities. Politicians will burn you just to make a point/own the libs/drumpfh/etc

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Holy shit. I'm glad the internet has taught me to never speak to the cops without a lawyer.

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if you get deported can you come back if you get some fancy "im an important citizen with lots of $$" visa the next day?

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You're usually barred from entering the US for a set time, like 20 years. Sometimes permanently. He could get a coyote to sneak him in the floorboards of a senitruck with a shipment of avocados for like 10k, though.

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This would be a the most dramatic outcome.

Deport Elon! :marseyelonmuskgenocide:

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Surely THIS will stump the Trump

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test

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>Found 96 coins

:marseyangel:

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:!#marseyclapping:

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:marseysquint:

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Why do they care?

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because: rocketmanbad

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It's like a former alcoholic who opposes alcoholism.

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Oh suddenly it matters?

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The governor and I, we were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires. What we need to do to create these jobs. And there is significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children.

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