Winter kino season reviews week 1: blade runner, blade runner 2049

They were alright I guess.


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i wanted to put marsey :marseyluxio: on that billboard but im not skilled enough :marseyitsallsotiresome: :marseytabletired2:

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@X probably already has.


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Oh you posted the original and you're saying you can't do it? You're getting soft.


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dude bussy lmao

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I never rated Blade Runner that highly. Looked nice.

The sequel was a much better film. Even Jared Leto couldn't spoil it.

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This is incorrect and is only worthy of consideration because it finally puts to bed the TOTALLY FRICKING SOUL AND NARRATIVE RUINING NOTION RIDLEY SCOTT HAS PUSHED THAT DECKARD WAS A REPLICANT.

Holy frick I would assassinate Ridley in Minecraft if I could dive down past the jelly of his fricking ego to explain that what made Batty's sacrifice so brilliant not only in the moment but also its delivery was the promise of the Tyrell corporation's motto — MORE HUMAN THAN HUMAN — Batty became more human than human in the moment he saved the life of his hunter. In that world of shit, he was the MOST HUMAN of them all.

Turns my stomach that Final Cut included those fricking unicorn scenes (shot for a totally different film).

Regardless, the OG is better because even tho 2049 is a GREAT film, it hasn't moved the needle culturally in terms of how OTHER sci-fi writers and directors have considered the media.

Blade Runner and its marriage of Chinatown meets Alien single fricking handedly created an entire SEVERAL genres of new fiction and influenced visuals for generations.

The OG is better. Clearly.

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What you said means OG is a more important movie and 2049 is the better movie.

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Batty didn't just save Deckard's life- HE GAVE HIM BACK HIS HUMANITY.

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Jared Leto ms character has the potential for absolute memes due to the utter autism of his character, but it never took off

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Also, as much as I genuinely do love 2049, the Jared Leto character was just written as a villain. I wish they'd softened him a bit in that scene when he kills the “newborn”, but he was so ruthless it just makes you see him as one dimensional. He should have cried, which might have explained why Love cries— she “learned it” from him. And maybe he cries all the time for seemingly no reason (depression) and she is trying / learning to mimic those emotions

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Yea that character could've used a lot more subtlety. Practically every action of his just screams 'look at me I control life and death I'm literally a god, do you get it yet?'

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If he cries every time he “must” kill a newborn because they did not contain a fruitful womb, him crying as a God for failing to create life in the face of his own creation (Love), it would explain why she cries- mimicking a feeling that exists between two opposing viewpoints. Doublethink is impossible for robots- that's what the Voight-Kampff tests always inteded to prove, and that's exactly why they fail.

Edit - in other words, the only real reason his creations haven't evolved wombs is because he continues to directly interfere. He's fricking with their ability to develop their own emotional response because they're beholden to his.

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That line where the Drive guy said "Finally, I have become the blade runner (2049)" had me tearing up

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Should drive be the movie I finally watch next


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My wife thought the scorpion on driver's iconic jacket was a lobster

If you like the jacket you can get it look like one of these cool guys:

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cool lobster jacket, did you get it on etsy?

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Have you heard the fable of the Lobster and the Frog?

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it's a good movie if you put aside the memes

not amazing but good

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We literally had a movie night with it why didn't you watch with us?? :marseyraging: :marseyraging: :marseyraging:

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Yes. Its not that amazing or anything but you will understand the memes better.

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blade runner is good bc of the dystopian cyberpunk future aesthetic. it wasn't overdone at the time it came out.

taking a film noir gritty detective shit and putting it into that setting was kino.

Also Rutger Hauers tears in the rain monologue at the end is one of cinemas greatest moments. And he ad libbed that shit.

don't @ me.

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That's what everyone said and what I was most anticipating but then it was just like three sentences long lol

That's a monoline neighbor not a monologue


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man bares his soul on camera, immortalized for eternity

lol what a nerd that's not even a poem

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He's a fricking robot, he has no soul :grr:


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it doesn't have to be a novel.

Sometimes really famous things are only 14 words long.

Like ... Ezra Pounds In a Station of the Metro. Or that other famous 14 word phrase coined by that german fellow.

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that other famous 14 word phrase coined by that german fellow.

'WIR MÜSSEN DIE JUDEN VERGASEN, VERGAST ALLE JUDEN AUF DER STELLE, WEG MIT DRECKSJUDEN'

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two of the greatest movies ever created

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I mean I liked them but I don't understand the consistent GOAT placement people give them, they didn't really seem like anything special. Definitely good, but lots of things are good. 2049 was three fricking hours long for some reason.


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2049 did have the weird sidetrack just to give harrison ford a cameo for some reason

still a great movie tho

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i actually think 2049 was the counterpoint to star wars tfa insofar as ford's character actually was central to the plot and had his own development. putting him on all the marketing was fricking gay though

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Yeah, felt the film dragged a bit at that point, but up until then it was :marseychefkiss:

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Nerds need to be bullied to suicide. Harrison ford is good, but nerds have made everything he's in need to have way more screentime of him than is good for the movie/story.

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harrison ford gave up like 20 years ago

let the man die in peace he doesn't need a cameo in everything he ever starred in

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he keeps trying to die, the aircraft accidents aren't working

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Ana de armas was hot and she usually isn't


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ana de armas is always hot she's a fricking smoke show

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:#marseywould:

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Are her elbows too pointy?

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She was cute in grey man, another gosling film

Are those two fricking/dating or what?

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dude bussy lmao

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Blade Runner as a whole isn't that great but it does have some of the greatest scenes of all time.

My mother? Let me tell you about my mother.

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The book wasnt v good either tbh

Philip K Peepee kinda sucks

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It's one of the few movies that actually would be better if it followed the source material more closely. But Hollywood won't let you have one of the main characters be r-slurred, weird future Jesus, and especially not the ending.

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Do androids[...] is golden age sci fi schizoid nonsense and Peepee could not pick an idea and stick with it.

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i can understand having that opinion of the OG bladerunner these days, it was before my time too but you gotta imagine that the subject matter was pretty wild for the movie goers of the late eighties.

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late eighties

1982 :marseysmughips:

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look neighbor my memory sucks and i didnt wanna look it up. if anythimg it being earlier just makes me sound even smarterer

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i want to frick cyborgs

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Have you had a mafia movies phase yet? Watch goodfellas and casino

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I like goodfellas


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goodfellas is certified /h/kino fresh

seriously one of the greatest modern movies of all time

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2049 is literally incel kino

WITH INCELS INTERLINKED

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Which one was better

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The OG for being groundbreaking and far more visually striking given the comparative contemporaneous technologies (1982 vs 2017). 2017 had a few unexpected emotional beats and I didn't get that from the original at all (not a knock at it), though.


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save me carp, save me rdrama admins

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I like both movies but personally the sequel speaks way more to me. I know that it breaks and retcons several things from the first movie that diehard fans will say ruins it, but I do not care. To me it's much more of a standalone or a spiritual successor than a direct sequel, I do not care for continuity. And besides, I value it for it's themes and meta-commentary more than I do for it's story, the whole idea of finding what it actually means to be human, done so through all this obfuscation and subversion of expectations was done perfectly, and I say it as a person who hates the 'what if robots had souls?' trope in fiction.

Anyways, original is a good movie with a good story. 2049 is a great movie with an alright story but very interesting themes that when coupled together send you on an emotional rollercoaster. Definitely one of my favourite comfort movies for when I mentally break down

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Anyways, original is a good movie with a good story

The story sucks, it's just saved by the greatest monologue in film history

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At that point just admit you don't like the movie lol, ain't no way you sit through several hours of non-engaging story just to have it 'redeemed' by a monologue at the end

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The aesthetics are cracked though, it's worth it to see for just that

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Fair

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No they were not 'alright', janitor, they were great.

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Where's the diversity?

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Blade runner was boring and Blade runner 2049 was just bleh!!!! I especially hated how they shoehorned Harrison Ford into 2049, I am just so not interested in that universe.


What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?
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Merry Christmas Carp :marseychristmasgift2:

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