So for all the talk about wokery the main bug-eyed girl gets her butt repeatedly kicked throughout the series. That combined with being a good nurtured optimistic sweet girl (with a normal haircut, no cringe half-shaved head like on She-Man lol) makes Lucy as far as possible from the current year “strong female character”.
Black lead is a selfish, backstabbing, lying opportunistic shithead. The Ghoul was the best character imo.
The final episode Vault-Tec plot was super nonsensical. So they built the vaults and made a lot of money, then THEY dropped the bombs! Like what? 
How on earth does Nuclear Apocalypse benefits them? Oh but we'll restart civilization! Again these business execs love moneyc prestige, and short time gains/pleasure/luxury they're not the “rebuild the world at our image“ type, much less to give up all conforts to live underground. It only makes sense if the Enclave dropped the bombs and manipulated Vault-Tec execs.
And how was Moldaver still alive? Was she frozen on a vault? Was she full of shit with her anti- Vault-Tec crusade?
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Show: r-slurred but sorta fun
Girl: cute
I lasted for the whole thing anyway, which is more than I can say of most goyslop series these days.
6/10
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Cute
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I am Ren
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'The Ghoul was the best character imo.'
This is because Walton Goggins is a great actor
Hit after hit since The Shield
Kinda weird seeing him as 'the good guy'
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loved him in that one episode of Community
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also, terrible acting.
The show was alright, but the writing definitely suffers from millennial creatives having consumed much too much YA shit.
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That's literally
the fallout 
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I thought the actor did a good job.
His character is supposed to be a brainwashed social r-slur.
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Vault tec pre-war was basically a part of the enclave, and their execs would have been more concerned with the enclave's agenda than making money. The enclave's plan was to use the vaults and FEV to keep enough people alive (as slaves and/or lab rats) after the nukes to eventually build ships and leave earth. Officially China dropped the first nuke but it's always made more sense for the enclave to have done it because China was winning and seemingly everything the enclave was doing was in preparation for nuclear war.
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Interesting theory, makes sense.
!kino !g*mers thoughts on the Enclave? Would you guys join them?
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Yes because in Fallout 1 and 2 they use the Enclave for random encounters as a geographical barrier to prevent you from going to parts of the map you shouldn't, and they smoke your butt.
I'd join the Enclave to be on the true winning side.
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Enclave are mega based:
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Even if I wanted, I couldn't - it's quite a small circle that doesn't allow outsiders in. You can “help” them in some games, but they still choose to take you out after your usefulness gets extinguished. There are remnants of the faction scattered around New Vegas and they are mostly a cool bunch.
It's hilarious how the show doesn't explain what the Enclave is, despite one of the characters formerly being a part of it. They showed a snowy, well-maintained facility, which I thought would be the mythical Chicago base we hear about in multiple games, but then suddenly the doctor who just escaped it is in LA? Why show the facility at all? The heckin' Dogmeaterino backstory?
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Rise of the enclave for fo4 fixes this
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If they can get the video sneed working.
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If you're trying to help retcon the entire game series to defend the TV series, just stop now.
"War never changes. The end of the world happened just as we predicted it. Too many humans, not enough resources to go around. The spoils of war became its weapons, oil and uranium."
In a real nuclear scenario, more than likely China was losing and felt its only path to winning was strategic nukes.
The FEV was parody of other existing drug augmentations, like Army "Go Pills" (meth) to keep soldiers awake and energetic for days on end. The army of super mutants was created by The Master, a mutated overseer whose vault didn't 100% survive.
The "Vault Tec was the bad guy the whole time" thing was a later addition by BethesDEI. In Fallout 1 and 2, the joke is that Vault 13 didn't get extra water chips because someone fricked up and the shipment got sent to another vault by incompetence.
Contractors are motivated by profit, especially when the profit is predicated on a calculated insurance gamble, such as a Vault. Vault Tec wanted to sell vaults as a "just in case" insurance policy because their profits mean nothing if they gambled wrong. It makes no sense for them to be "part of the Enclave and wanting power in the blown up shitty world full of radroaches and deathclaws."
The Enclave was a partial remnant of the former US Government and an attempt to reconstruct the government by collecting old tech.
The TV series is fun, but has to simply be understood as a way to tell a story for its medium, because you tell stories in different ways for TV/film/book/vidya.
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I'm pretty sure it's canon that China was getting destroyed after the US invented power armor (or maybe the new version of it) and they were able to beat them back out of Alaska and were about to invade the mainland. This obviously implies they were backed into a corner and had every reason to start the nuking as a last ditch effort, but still leaves enough doubt
Kinda pissed the show, after actually dancing around it decently well for the season, in the end was just like "yea the US is run by a bunch of comic villains and the commies were the good guys all along"
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I hated that too, also
@ACA I think you made a better point.
They went with a “evil corps control the US” story, with their evil exec meeting deciding to drop the bombs and start a Nuclear Holocaust for the lolz and Moldaver with her commie talking points (we have more in common with le average Chinese nonsense)
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Welcome to Hollywood's favorite trick:
Take an existing franchise and just say "whoa the bad guys were really the good guys the whole time!"
They did it with Maleficent, Cruella, and even the Jedi Order. I guess those are a lot of Disney examples, so maybe this is also their fault for spreading the idea.
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yea and it's even worse for Fallout cause a huge theme of the originals, and even Bethesda kinda got it right in 3, was that the commies may not be such bad guys; everyone is just trying to survive and will do whatever it takes
then the show writers come in and are like AMERICA BAD AMIRIGHT??
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The enclave existed before the war. They aren't actually the US government, they were always an illuminati-like group controlling the government from within, and had contractors like vault-tec and west-tek doing their bidding.
All of this is based on the games, although much of it is Betheslop. I have not watched the show.
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You kill the enclave nuke their oil rig in Fallout 2. This means that Vault Tec has no military wing anymore to do their deeds.
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You could have done crack instead of this shit
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I didnt like that they had a non-binary minor character that was addressed as "they" once. This show fricking sucks, not enough blondes.
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I watched this with a bunch of my friends and I don't think anyone realized that wasn't supposed to be a girl lol.
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Are they supposed to be a guy?
Some unfortunate fricks are genuinely non-binary, I just assumed thats what was going on there.
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I'd assume non-binary means neither, but it's almost always visually obvious what they actually are
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Yeah that was quite stupid.
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You fricking r-slur, lol.
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Wing cuck upset he had to hear they once.
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Actually they should have kept it
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Yeah the vault tec "new world" plot is r-slurred, but overall very entertaining and well executed show
8/10 Dongerinos
Wasn't she part of the science circle? The big downside was her saying "They use communist as a slur for people who are not stupid"
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It was meh. They could've cut all the brotherhood and vault content made it solely about the ghoul and it would've been much better.
The vault tec shit was clearly just the writers trying to make someone besides China the bad guy
More importantly how many fires did she start when he reconnected LA to power with no forethought? Those ruins would've gone up like tinder
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I liked the show. It's not some 10/10 masterpiece, but it didn't offend me. Great use of the Fallout universe, and good on them for not trying to remake everything like other video game shows try to do.
She probably was in the cyro-tubes in vault 31. She knew too much about Lucy's parents that it screams "She was a vault-dweller that gone rogue". Though we aren't gonna find that out for another 2 years
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Ghoul is literally me
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They never confirmed that Vault-Tec dropped the bomb that started the apocalypse. Given that the woman who suggested it didn't have her only child secure in a Vault when the bombs drop, it seems more likely that they didn't do it.
A story can have more than one "Bad Guy"
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There's a 4th option, the writers are r-slurred and didn't mind checking inconsistencies.
But seriously, Barb was talking to a shadowy figure, I think she's part of the Enclave and that's the plot point they'll follow. The Enclave drops the first bomb to trigger the War and Vault-Tec plus other contractors are manipulated to do their bidding.
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Or the writers had to introduce why a former Vault Tec junior executive had access to a nuclear weapon in order to kill his wife and destroy the surface society she loved, because he didn't control her there, while also setting up why Cooper doesn't trust Barb anymore.
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I got to episode 2 and then got distracted by other stuff and don't feel that much like continuing. Something bothered me about the tone of the show. The games always felt more kind of surreally bleak rather than goofy.
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I'm watching
the finale tonight but so far it's genuine 10/10 for me
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It was a fun show!
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It's not actually stated that Vault-Tec caused the war. We do learn that Vault-Tec is making vaults to create a new world after bombs drop, and that they are willing to sell vaults to other companies to help fund their goals. We learn that they are very excited to use the vaults to conduct experiments on people to test theories on how to make better societies (that they control) or just do crazy experiments for possible gains in power.
Vault-Tec seems pretty convinced that nuclear war is going to happen. The vaults are clearly not just something they do to grift as they have vaults just for themselves and the preservation of their power into the future.
It's POSSIBLE that they started the war, they clearly are invested and preparing for a nuclear war. They are clearly looking to profit/gain from it when/if it happens. But they never actually state that they did it themselves.
I feel like this is pretty in line with the games that have been ambiguous about who dropped the first bomb with hints that Vault-Tec may have contributed to it happening. But whether that means they did it themselves or were influencing events with their corrupt corporate power has never been clear.
Lots of autists are jumping to conclusions with this show due to lack of information that it provides. Or they assume these are frick ups on behalf of the writers because they are r-slurred. To me it's pretty clear that they are leaving things up in the air to be dealt with later:
What was Vault-Tec's role leading to the bombs dropping?
Why is the Brotherhood of Steel an incompetent mess compared to previous games?
Who is Moldaver and why is she still alive? Is she good or bad? What were/are her goals? Why do people worship her like a cult?
What is going on with the NCR? Is it completely destroyed or just in Southern California?
Is New Vegas destroyed?
Is there more going on with the Enclave since Fallout 3? What's up with their base full of scientists? What are they cooking up? Are they connected to Vault-Tec in some way?
The show sometimes gives hints to these questions, but it does so through biased characters telling the audience what THEY think/believe but that doesn't actually mean it's true. Moldaver Lady, BoS, Vault-Tec peeps all have good reasons to lie or misrepresent facts in order to further their own goals.
We the audience are the Vault Girl (
),we're ignorant to what's going on and learning things at the same time she is. We're not suppose to have all the answers and we're not suppose to trust everything we hear. I look forward to new seasons.
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You're such an analytical sweetie!
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Some people are able to display their intelligence by going on at length on a subject and never actually saying anything. This ability is most common in trades such as politics, public relations, and law. You have impressed me by being able to best them all, while still coming off as an absolute idiot.
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some of the writing was cringe, like the whole Knight Titus bit made no sense and was unfunny garbage. Then there's the lore breaking stuff, but after the first episode I mentally viewed it as occurring in the Fallout 4/76 universe and it made it easier to watch
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I have only played the first game, did they ruin the lore for that too or only for the Reddit circlejerk games? Should I watch it? I kinda liked Fallout.
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The show is really
good
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I assumed that the Bud character and Wayne's darkie wife went full r-slur and nobody outside their feifdom saw it coming. Still doesn't explain why the other corpos would buy in, tho
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Snappy?
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Don't care, not watching Toddslop
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