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So for all the talk about wokery the main bug-eyed girl gets her butt repeatedly kicked throughout the series. That combined with being a good nurtured optimistic sweet girl (with a normal haircut, no cringe half-shaved head like on She-Man lol) makes Lucy as far as possible from the current year “strong female character”.
Black lead is a selfish, backstabbing, lying opportunistic shithead. The Ghoul was the best character imo.
The final episode Vault-Tec plot was super nonsensical. So they built the vaults and made a lot of money, then THEY dropped the bombs! Like what? 
How on earth does Nuclear Apocalypse benefits them? Oh but we'll restart civilization! Again these business execs love moneyc prestige, and short time gains/pleasure/luxury they're not the “rebuild the world at our image“ type, much less to give up all conforts to live underground. It only makes sense if the Enclave dropped the bombs and manipulated Vault-Tec execs.
And how was Moldaver still alive? Was she frozen on a vault? Was she full of shit with her anti- Vault-Tec crusade?
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Vault tec pre-war was basically a part of the enclave, and their execs would have been more concerned with the enclave's agenda than making money. The enclave's plan was to use the vaults and FEV to keep enough people alive (as slaves and/or lab rats) after the nukes to eventually build ships and leave earth. Officially China dropped the first nuke but it's always made more sense for the enclave to have done it because China was winning and seemingly everything the enclave was doing was in preparation for nuclear war.
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If you're trying to help retcon the entire game series to defend the TV series, just stop now.
"War never changes. The end of the world happened just as we predicted it. Too many humans, not enough resources to go around. The spoils of war became its weapons, oil and uranium."
In a real nuclear scenario, more than likely China was losing and felt its only path to winning was strategic nukes.
The FEV was parody of other existing drug augmentations, like Army "Go Pills" (meth) to keep soldiers awake and energetic for days on end. The army of super mutants was created by The Master, a mutated overseer whose vault didn't 100% survive.
The "Vault Tec was the bad guy the whole time" thing was a later addition by BethesDEI. In Fallout 1 and 2, the joke is that Vault 13 didn't get extra water chips because someone fricked up and the shipment got sent to another vault by incompetence.
Contractors are motivated by profit, especially when the profit is predicated on a calculated insurance gamble, such as a Vault. Vault Tec wanted to sell vaults as a "just in case" insurance policy because their profits mean nothing if they gambled wrong. It makes no sense for them to be "part of the Enclave and wanting power in the blown up shitty world full of radroaches and deathclaws."
The Enclave was a partial remnant of the former US Government and an attempt to reconstruct the government by collecting old tech.
The TV series is fun, but has to simply be understood as a way to tell a story for its medium, because you tell stories in different ways for TV/film/book/vidya.
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I'm pretty sure it's canon that China was getting destroyed after the US invented power armor (or maybe the new version of it) and they were able to beat them back out of Alaska and were about to invade the mainland. This obviously implies they were backed into a corner and had every reason to start the nuking as a last ditch effort, but still leaves enough doubt
Kinda pissed the show, after actually dancing around it decently well for the season, in the end was just like "yea the US is run by a bunch of comic villains and the commies were the good guys all along"
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I hated that too, also
@ACA I think you made a better point.
They went with a “evil corps control the US” story, with their evil exec meeting deciding to drop the bombs and start a Nuclear Holocaust for the lolz and Moldaver with her commie talking points (we have more in common with le average Chinese nonsense)
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Welcome to Hollywood's favorite trick:
Take an existing franchise and just say "whoa the bad guys were really the good guys the whole time!"
They did it with Maleficent, Cruella, and even the Jedi Order. I guess those are a lot of Disney examples, so maybe this is also their fault for spreading the idea.
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yea and it's even worse for Fallout cause a huge theme of the originals, and even Bethesda kinda got it right in 3, was that the commies may not be such bad guys; everyone is just trying to survive and will do whatever it takes
then the show writers come in and are like AMERICA BAD AMIRIGHT??
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The enclave existed before the war. They aren't actually the US government, they were always an illuminati-like group controlling the government from within, and had contractors like vault-tec and west-tek doing their bidding.
All of this is based on the games, although much of it is Betheslop. I have not watched the show.
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You kill the enclave nuke their oil rig in Fallout 2. This means that Vault Tec has no military wing anymore to do their deeds.
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You could have done crack instead of this shit
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Interesting theory, makes sense.
!kino !g*mers thoughts on the Enclave? Would you guys join them?
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Yes because in Fallout 1 and 2 they use the Enclave for random encounters as a geographical barrier to prevent you from going to parts of the map you shouldn't, and they smoke your butt.
I'd join the Enclave to be on the true winning side.
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Enclave are mega based:
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Even if I wanted, I couldn't - it's quite a small circle that doesn't allow outsiders in. You can “help” them in some games, but they still choose to take you out after your usefulness gets extinguished. There are remnants of the faction scattered around New Vegas and they are mostly a cool bunch.
It's hilarious how the show doesn't explain what the Enclave is, despite one of the characters formerly being a part of it. They showed a snowy, well-maintained facility, which I thought would be the mythical Chicago base we hear about in multiple games, but then suddenly the doctor who just escaped it is in LA? Why show the facility at all? The heckin' Dogmeaterino backstory?
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Rise of the enclave for fo4 fixes this
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If they can get the video sneed working.
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