Inspired by the thread of comments we had on Star Wars original trilogy, are there movies or film series you considered great at some point, or that other people consider great but that you guys consider kind of ? Or maybe not the masterpiece everyone seems to believe?
This is not about being a contrarian “WHAA POPULAR THING SUCKS”, is more about “why do people make such a fuzz on it” sincere feeling
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Drive was aggressively mediocre, trending towards bad but not quite reaching it. Forgettable and unremarkable are the two best words for it.
Blade Runner 2049 was also serviceable but ultimately very low impact. It's the sort of thing I'd expect to be argued about whether or not it's a good mindless hangover movie with the points for it being how vapid and aesthetically pleasant it is vs. points against being its length and pretenses of being lofty. The near-universal praise for it is concerning.
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2049 looked nice like these mountains
Aggresively mediocre like the average carp post though
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I recognize that mountain range. Have fun getting doxxed, incel
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I wished I was at the mountains right now
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hope a bear eats you
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this is why i choose the man
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I'm jelly
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!r-slurs
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https://rdrama.net/h/kino/post/229668/winter-kino-season-reviews-week-1
https://rdrama.net/h/chudrama/post/244929/-
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!r-slurs !fhqwhgads !alligatorfrickhouse !ifrickinglovescience
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Oh that? Yeah, that's bait.
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I agree with this insightful reply: https://rdrama.net/h/chudrama/post/244929/-/5918545#context
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There are plenty of criticisms you can level against Drive but forgettable isn't one of them considering the amount it is still talked about to this day
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I don't think le autism man jacket meme really qualifies as discussion
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your favorite movie is low-mid popcorn dross im sorry
!commenters all of you
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Big Brother season 2 is better than any of this shit
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i dont even know what that is but id still rather watch big brother season 2 than sit through drive again
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It's the best season of television ever produced. A reality TV show accidently captured the most interesting man in the world working his magic over 30 episodes culminating in some of the most hilarious shit I've ever seen.
A tale of 12 people who's morals are pushed to their limits.
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Oh that sounds promising! Where can I watch Big Brother season 2?
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It's iconic
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I rate Nightcrawler higher than Drive in the same category cause they seem kinda similar.
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nightcrawler made me feel dirty. fantastic movie, was rooting against the protagonist the entire time
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Nightcrawler is my literally me movie lol.
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I'm learning by the hour about how shit your movie tastes are.
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RUDE. I inject it. I live the kinolyf (also literally me):
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I watched it thinking it was an xmen origin movie and kept wondering how chasing wrecks world lead to teleport powers. I was very disappointed with it.
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Loool understandable mistake to make.
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It's not an X-Men movie?
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No it's not. It's just about a weird cokehead acting guy wanting to be a photojourn*list.
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Watch me bamph my farts
Haha whoops. Haha whoops. Haha whoops
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Lmao. Work that colon
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I love both of them but my contrarian take is that Only God Forgives is even better
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I dont remember 2049 getting universal praise, everyone just thought it was aesthetically amazing with a serviceable plot. Basically what you said
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It was very well rated, but less so then the original.
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The thing about drive is it's all about the form, nothing about the substance. It's basically a movie made for movie directors (and wannabes). It's still pretty great tho.
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Hotline Miami did it better
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But Ryan Gosling in both films is literally me
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2049 was about as perfect as a sequel to the first movie as anyone could've hoped for tbh.
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!besties
Imagine pinning your own forgettable comment
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Embarrassing
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Absolutely agreed on blade runner 2049. If environment was the sole factor for movie quality it'd be the greatest of all time. But the plot straddles a 6 or 7. HE HAS TO DIE B-B-B-BECAUSE THEY NEED A MARTYR. yeah sure man whatever go take him to see his daughter and die on her front porch or some shit rather than going to the only group that could treat you. I don't care if he doesn't make it there it just makes zero sense they couldn't at least try first.
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no r-slur he chose to be. he abandoned the revolution and wanted no part of it, but saving someone and preserving a bit of genuine love that he found was enough for him to lay down his life
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and he decided to just die out of complacency then? The active threat is gone you can't at least go and try and get treated by the people who would happily care for you at this point?
I'm not even saying HE MUST SURVIVE I'm just saying why not even try a little bit?
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The point of the movie is him giving in and rejecting the system and the revolution. I do think that the movie had a weaker plot, but it had a great ending.
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THANK YOU! Drive was boring as fricking shit. There were like two cool ultraviolent scenes and the rest was like two hours of neurodivergent staring.
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People prolly got different things from it than you did.
Trans lives matter
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You can find some great personal epiphany watching a recording of a blank white wall for 22 hours that doesn't make it good
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What makes it good, then?
Trans lives matter
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Good comes from a combination of skill, effort, and beauty
@FBIshill let me know if you disagree
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I dont think anybody ever said drive is great? It was always seen as generic, its just ryan gosling memes boosted it
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Im not sure anyone was saying Drive was great, aside from 4chan. It was obviously an ultra long syntheave music video and it had that b movie charm
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INTERLINKED
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how could this happen. How could I agree to that fish thing
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No
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I just realized @FBIshill was carp I thought it was some fedposter that just got out of prison that I had missed drama on.
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2049 is compelling because of its visuals and style. It's fictional world evokes some of the grimmer realities of the real world.
The plot was pretty dumb though.
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Go frick yourself carp
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Baby Driver was what Drive would have been if Drive wasn't shit.
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I tried to watch Blade Runner 2049 twice and both times I had to turn it off once Jared Leto showed up
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Yeah Jared Leto sucked. I rewatched both BR movies recently, and Blade Runner was even better than I remembered it (as always) while I don't think I'll ever watch 2049 again. It's like a kid putting on his big boy pants and trying to live up to daddy's movie. How do you benefit from decades of innovation and make the movie look worse? Look at the difference between Deckard's apartment and Goosling's sterile 2015-looking piece of shit:
And the only time the music came anywhere close to the DIVINITY of the original was when they inserted actual Vangelis music at the end. I felt something for a split second. BWOMMM BWOMMMM BWOMMM oh wow, so sublime, thank you Denis. Mass Effect featured hours of 10/10 ambient music 17 years ago. No excuse. Deckard and especially Rachel should not have been in it. I will say I think Ana de Armas' character was great, and le crying bandaid man scene was a legitimately excellent moment in cinema. I will also say that Blade Runner is my favorite movie of all time, and 2049 is good enough that it didn't piss me off. Just a 7/10 vs a 10/10 despite having the source material and aesthetic already laid out.
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Jared leto had like two minutes screen time in that movie
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Looks like it would be your apartment in a deus ex game
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Goosling apartment would be a terrible place to drink alcohol. Deckard apartment is Alcohalla.
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You sat down and wrote all this shit. You could have done so many other things with your life. What happened to your life that made you decide writing novels of bullshit here was the best option?
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You feel this way because you are a carp and not a real human being
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I agree with you about BR2077. There's nothing intriguing about the plot
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is a snooze fest any version
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One of the most overrated directors of all times. His movies are so cheesy and cringey. Its like a 16 year teenage boys nerdy fantasies about being cool, only its a middle aged balding creep who has the chin of a witch.
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I like kill bill
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i don't like weeb shit myself personally, the whole katana and sword fighting thing like doesn't interest me
i don't mind some scenes in that movie, but i have to skip like a lot of action scebes because they are so boring, and the weirdo feet scenes, its like bits and pieces of that movie are alright then i see this ugly b-words foot and i have to skip like 5 minutes of that toe wiggle nastiness then some stupid katana nonsense takes up 30 minutes skipping that, etc
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!kino thoughts?
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!kino thoughts?
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Midsommar is the only one I've seen and I hated it. I liked the Northman so I should probably watch the Witch at some point though
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Watch The Lighthouse too
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The Lighthouse is better than the Northman and the VVitch imo. It's also pretty much What Did He MEAN By This?: The Film.
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My wife and I saw that in the theaters and we almost walked out
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Midsommar was unintentionally funny and pointless. Hardly gave a shit about the characters who died. Get Out was entertaining, but his following blackslop was aggressively 5/10. I forgot if he made Pardon the Interruption (which was really fun).
VVitch has a great atmosphere and mood.
The rest are garbage. It Follows was decent.
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Us was so bad it made me fricking ANGRY I wasted two hours on that horseshit. Jordan Peele has made one decent film and I suspect he'll never make another one.
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Not sure how it went wrong. Maybe too much focus on the evil version of the female/mom character? It was also yet another "oh no you're trapped in your house by the evil randos" horror story, which is always for me. Even then, it didn't seem scary or tense. I just stopped caring 1/3 or 1/2 of the way into it.
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It doesn't even make fricking sense. The premise itself is full of gigantic plot holes that are never addressed. It also sets rules for the universe and then immediately breaks them, and it is full of bizarre offputting shit like a horrific murder scene set to some r-slurred fricking rap music blasting. Literally the worst film ever. I'm getting angry again just remembering it.
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i watched Smile alone with a sibling during a midnight showing and it scared the shoes off me
that final monster really looked like Bardfinn
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Smile was kino
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I'll have to check out Hates Everybody. It's right by a bunch of my favorites.
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not you, the other one
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Shit movie
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Some of Tarantino'a movies are good, like Reservoir Dogs and Hateful Eight.
Pulp Fiction is extremely overrated however, what a piece of shit
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It's bad bait. @bot
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eh not really bait. i used to like tarintino when i was in middle school, but once you actually start paying attention you realize everything he does is a cliche ripoff.
Like i uses to like Rwservoir dogs when I first watched it when I was 11 i liked it, but i rewatched it a few years ago and literally 99% of the script is just them yelling the word rat and then a torture scene which is so cringey and stupid it actually makes me laugh.
Most of the conversations make no sense, and the whole crying scene at the end is undeserved, because i don't care about harvey or that stupid cop. Its like watching a comedy only its not funny and just boring except for small sections. Harvey Kietal also needs to stop xrying in movies its actually r-slurred, i like him as an actor but that cry is so terrible its not even funny just painfully annoying and unconvincing. Like listenjng to an r-slured manbaby banshee. Bad Liuetenant did it too, and I skip that scene evry tkme even though i like that movie, just so shit.
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I just think they're neat
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I've never liked Tarantino either
Django is shit, Inglorious bastards is shit. Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs and Once upon a time are all alright but nothing amazing
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Django got glazed so hard when it came out and that movie is developmentally disabled
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!chuds malding about a great movie because it has a black main character.
!nonchuds, why are they so pathetic?
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wait I thought nonchuds hated magical negros???
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Magical BIPOC Ranch: The Movie
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What makes you think the movie is bad because the main character is black?
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The whipping scene was too silly. The rest was uncut mainline freebase kino.
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I didn't like how they yanked Brad Pitt's sister from the hallway when she got hit with the shotgun. I guess it was supposed to be funny, but it landed like a wet fart. It felt so out of place.
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That's the only part of the movie that I remember because it was so r-slurred
If we're going to pretend that's what happens when someone is shot, at least have them move in the same direction as the projectile is travelling
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Every Tarantino movie after Pulp Fiction is shit. Most overrated director ever.
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i never watched once upon a time. Cinematagrophy is good with Tarintink like he can direct, but the screenplays are so terrible I just can't stand watching his movies.
Also the black and female empowerment movies Tarintino releases all the timr are so embareassing. I don't eve mind those type of movies even, but from that old creep they just come off as patronisingly lame. Shit is like 90% of his catalogue too.
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Take the BBC cute twink b-word
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what does that even mean lol
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Are you serious? Leave this site now before it's too late.
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racheal dolezal looking butt ginger jew looking butt
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Not sure I agree with this on the whole, but Inglorious Basterds might be my least favorite movie of all time. It's just so aggressively nihilistic, like it's mocking you if you treat the holocaust and WWII with any sense of gravity.
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snooze fest movie, not impressed by it, except when the woman felt bad for the nazi hero guy and he shot her haha
bar scene was op now that i am thinking about it
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They're like any movies where the director is a writer, except it got worse as he gained clout and became unfettered. When I saw Death Proof, I thought it was intentional that the foids were the most annoying motherlovers of all time, and it was building up to Kurt fricking killing them so the audience could cheer. But no, Quentin actually thought their yammering was cool and enjoyable. An example of a good writer movie is Exorcist III.
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Wrong.
Kill Bill is kino because it has a lot of sword fights, and sword fights are based.
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if i wanted to watch sword fighting i would go to the bathroom in a gay bar
And its not interesting knowing the main character is gonna smoke them all with some magic, like 20 guys all have swords she beatd them all?? might as well just skip that, i don't even care to see that nonsense on screen just a bunch of ballerina twirl flip shit like a flamer. Tarintino is a weeb, and that movie has about as much depth as any other anime, its shit
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Tarantino movies just make me roll my eyes and groan. They're extremely similar and the invincible badass main characters who spout cool dialogue while mowing down their opps by the dozen throw wet blankets on the movies, like why do I care what happens to them the movie has already shown me that they can get a 500/1 k/d ratio without breaking a sweat. It's anime/video game shit
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yeah then the weird homoerotic race shit like in hateful eight, django unchained, pulp fiction, jackie brown, etc.
Tarintino has wo movies with black and white men raping each other. Or the weird foot shit or in reservoir dogs were he is talking about that song, like we all know what it means its gross nobody wants to hear an uggo like u explain it with your shit acting.
Old ugly creep sits down and writes just weirdo shit and then wins oscars for best screenplay, its embarrassing. Reminds me of that school shooter from the movie the dirties, who tries so hard to be cool entirely by imitating movies but is just an ugly freak.
no hate to the man, but he shouldn't be involved in any sort of writing he needs to just direct and let normal people create the scripts
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I feel like he's a natural film genius with an obsessive passion, but is at the same time an eccentric weirdo. I think he shoots himself in the foot trying to be post modern and non-sincere. If he cut out the n-word and immaturity, made his movies more serious, he could've honestly had a shot at being the greatest director of all time. He's in a difficult category because he makes some absolute schlock, but he does make it really well made. His dialogue I think is his weakest part, I never understood why it's praised, I just feel like it's Tarantino holding different sock puppets talking to himself. Especially with coomer fetish moments like the French girlfriend going on about wanting a pot belly.
Jackie Brown will forever be his greatest film because it was Quentin at his most restrained, it's a window into "what could've been". I think Kill Bill is actually his worst because it's just him soyjakking for 5 hours over his girlboss OC who calls everyone "b-word"
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Agree.
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I have never agreed with anything more. I fricking hate Tarantino.
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"haha wouldn't it be funny if one of the extras sucked your toes? heh people would laugh so hard if i was that extra, wouldn't they? haha, i'm cracking up just thinking about it "
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I feel the point of his films is style over substance, and the style being overly heady and dumb is on purpose. The movies are supposed to elicit a very specific feel and not much thought. Its similar to Blade Runner 2049 were the story is a vehicle to show cool scenes. Movies like Blade Runner and the catalogue of Tarantino are pieces used to convey emotion more then anything. Once again using Blade Runner, its meant to show the shift in human apathy towards a cool looking but shitty future. This pairs well with the themes of release as well as rejection of both sides of the societal coin. Tarantino is similarly trying to project an emotion to the viewer, with movies like Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown this would be similar to the feel of "teenage boy coolness" that you mention. They are supposed to show the 80s and 90s style of director, cool over everything else. This is contrasted to his writing, which regardless of your opinion is generally regarded as good. In many ways his writing harkens to older directors like Leone and Kurosawa, who focused more on dialogue and good writing, like Kurosawa's The Bad Sleep Well. The Bad Sleep Well is a good example of an earlier movie that tried to do what Tarantino would later do. The movie has a very eccentric style, for the time, that is supposed to accentuate the story in a way that would make it feel like a western story to Japanese audiences, the movie being a take on Hamlet/Amleth. Tarantino is essentially trying to communicate through feeling rather then logic or intelligence because the themes of movies like Jackie Brown, Pulp Fiction, and Reservoir Dogs are hard to explain or show though a story, but are easy to make some one feel. His movies are the epitome of "you know it when you see it", they should be bad but they aren't. This is also why he's so popular, because you don't need to be intelligent to get a Tarantino film and its deeper themes.
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You sat down and wrote all this shit. You could have done so many other things with your life. What happened to your life that made you decide writing novels of bullshit here was the best option?
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i love pulp fiction but most of his movies are trash. reservoir dogs is ok
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i love you
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that rocks, i love you too
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dm me
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Bro got Hapsburg jaw, literally a descendant of inbreds
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