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How would you rank IMDb’s top 10 movies of all time? pic.twitter.com/Mxeu4YybIO
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Yikes imagine not trusting the kino science:
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Putting the Shawshank redemption, The Godfather and TDK at the top is infinitely more respectable than having something like Jeanne Dielmann which topped the The sight and sound poll critic list. Something which "real cinephiles" defended tooth and nail.
At least, I can tell the guys who enthusiastically voted TDK and Shawshank most likely watched the films, genuinely enjoyed them and as a result voted for them. Unlike, a certain crowd who watch certain films because they top certain lists and then heap them with praise in order to fit in.
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The Godfather and even TDK I can understand, but Shawshank Redemption? Literal sunday afternoon melodrama, it's not bad but very vanilla.
We need a list of pretentious films post to see the drama “cinephile” reaction
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Pretentious films (by scanning the S&S poll)
Jeanne Dielman
Blue by Derek Jarman
Get Out
Moonlight
Do The Right Thing
Portrait of a Lady on Fire
Add anymore to this, kinobros?
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Cuarón's “Roma” was super pretentious (in comparison Kenneth Brannagh's “Belfast” was good and basically “Roma” done in a right way)
Anything by Goddard
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God, Roma was so boring and pointless. I've got a cinephile friend, so he loved it, but good god. It's such a pointless film.
Most of my dislike for this "genre" is simply because I can't stand how rich people in the cinema business romanticize poor people. It's like they haven't gotten over their socialist claptrap phase.
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I compared it with Belfast because both directors attempted something similar with different approaches.
Cuáron grew up in Roma, an upper-middle class neighborhood in Mexico City. So in the film he's supposed to be one of the kids but he's telling a fictional story about his maid. A lot “class guilt” displayed.
In Belfast we on the other hand we follow the kid's (Kenneth Brannagh) story. He grows up in a good nurtured loving family during “The Troubles”, his childhood shelters him from what's going on around until it becomes too evident and his parents decide to leave. I felt that one had a soul unlike “Roma”.
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I'll check out Belfast.
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Half of those aren't even pretentious films. I'd take the
stuff 100/100 times over this post-2016 identitarian nonsense
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I thought do the right thing was really entertaining and fun. I didn't find it pretentious at all
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Get Out is only pretentious if you are literally r-slurred, the movie is not really trying to hard to hide it's messaging & it is not especially deep
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People who think it's the best movie ever are pretentious. Are you r-slurred?
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Beau Travail fricking sucked so you can add that one since a woman directed it
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Seconded. Travesty of a film. At least one from Tarkvosky, Lynch and Wong-Kar Wai. I don't even dislike these three filmmakers (though having multiple films by these guys make the top 100 is a bit much) but they seem to attract the worst kind of cinephile who say banal shit like,
"Cinema is like a visual medium. It's all about the vibes man. It's like a transcendental experience, especially on LSD bro".
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Sounds like something Alejandro Jodorowsky would say lmao
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You know those motivational videos on youtube that you probably find very cheesy but has tens of millions of views because it gets guys pumped up at least temporarily? Shawshank is the film equivalent of that.
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Paul Schrader literally called it woke lol
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Thats exactly what cinema 'culture' is
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Watching niche midwit schizoslop movies
It was brilliant!
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Excuse me, I'll have you know that my enjoyment of fricked-up and weird movies stems from my own mental illness and not a desire to seem smart, thank you very much.
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did u like eraserhead bb?
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I've seen bits and pieces of it and liked what I saw. I just haven't watched it all the way through yet.
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The only valid reason
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lol, no thanks!
I've seen more than enough government-subsidized Euroslop.
Sounds awful.
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This sounds like archetypal film critic bait just as movies about struggling misunderstood creatives are academy award bait
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Frances Ha is incredible and I will stab you if you disagree.
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It was solidly mediocre.
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And the bulk of the discussion around this movie is about whether she was justified in killing the guy she was having s*x with(because buying s*x with money is r*pe!), whether the murder was liberating or spiralling.
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Jeanne Dielmann topped the main list but it was much further down in the Directors list where they won't care about appeasing political groups. Just pay attention to that list instead
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The Sight & Sound poll was another example of identity politics and tokenism taking precedence after 2012 when the last list released. Letterboxd used to be where the best taste and cinephiles rated movies until the Eternal September we call the Twitter exodus. Now most of the top movies of all time on there are capeshit, identity-related films, and overrated foreign films. Everyone wants to analyze art analytically like a science now and focus on looking at top lists, making charts of their favorite movies, and seeeing what the consensus is but they'll never take the time to rewatch their favorites or to genuinely enjoy them.
Paul Schrader and Armond White even disliked the Jeanne Dielmann inclusion for this reason:
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