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Compare that to the age of broadcast tv. Star Trek: The Next Generation for example.
And that was still considered a genre show that was not fully mainstream.
Kids these days don't understand just how fragmented audiences are compared to the old days. It used to be that if you wanted your TV show to even exist it had to appeal to literally millions of people. They were able to get way bigger audiences than when Disney tries to appeal to the mainstream. The difference is shows didn't suck butt back then.
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Something I've noticed about the d+ shows that I've actually watched is they're a fricking slog to get through. They seem to outline a story that should probably be a 90-120 minute movie and then stretch that to 7-8 hours over 8 episodes because they want it to be a show. Every episode is filled with minutes long shots of a character looking at an object or walking slowly from A to B. No dialogue or exposition, just blatant obvious padding.
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Redditors go on about how TV series are a better format to movies because it let's them tell more story as if the average script can be stretched out to 8 episodes. Nearly all TV was episodic for decades with actual storytelling left to cinema for a reason.
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Ive been rewatching "Scrubs" (
) and its crazy how much story they packed into just 20 minutes, and its not exactly a show with a dense plot (or much at all)
Also funny how quite a bit of the humor would just get you cancelled and called an alt-right chud nowadays.
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It seemed like half of the latest episode of The Acolyte was an establishing shot of the witches' fortress, which wasn't that interesting to look at.
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Also have the problem of "good luck knowing who some of these are if you didn't watch x amount of another show"
Literally 0 trans lives matter
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Because they have no budget so they have to pad the entire narrative out with plot lines and characters that don't take a bunch of VFX but this never leads anywhere either.
This could work if the writers in charge knew what they were doing but the entire writing room is a usual millennial mess so the overall story just comes across as disjointed and clunky.
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180 million for 8 episodes. This show is crazy expensive.
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DS9 only watchable Trekshit.
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Nah. All star trek is soy. Period.
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!trekkies get him
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Cute twink redditor moment
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cute twink redditor hands typed this comment ^
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Scratch any rdramatard and a cute twink redditor bleeds
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Okay, you're free to have your wrong opinion.
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Haven't the differences in medium enabled different marketing strategies to ensure profitability (in at least some cases) though? You don't need 30 million viewers if the 11 million that will spend money on merch are still there, and on e.g. YouTube you can run much more targeted ad campaigns.
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Yeah, it's great for lots of media. But shouldn't Star Wars still be able to attract that mass audience? It seems like now it's becoming a niche product for a certain kind of nerd.
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I don't think there's a single star wars fan under the age of 18 now, and the original goyslop consoomer Gen Xers and Millenials that bought the slop during the 00s have aged out of it for the most part.
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Baby Yoda fans lol
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They're women and over 40
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IDK what the numbers for Disney+ in comparison to other shows are but despite a majority of the post-OT movies being garbage people still went to see them. And that's not touching on the merch, which is inevitably the real cash cow.
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They arent making money on merch anymore. They lose money on merch and the movies to the point they havent even made back the money it cost them to buy starwars and its been almost 10 years. Kids dont play with toys now and they lost a lot of the adults who would buy toys. You can usually find star wars stuff at discount stores like Ollies for 80% off about a month after it comes out.
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Ummm... Source??
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Source on the toys thing? I sometimes use the more monsterous ones to kitbash tabletop figures.
2018 https://fortune.com/2018/01/18/with-star-wars-toys-the-force-is-strong-but-retail-sales-arent/
2022 https://thatparkplace.com/exclusive-expert-toy-industry-insider-reveals-marvel-and-star-wars-merch-struggles/
Source on the no money making thing?
https://www.jeditemplearchives.com/2024-04-15-has-disney-made-any-actual-profit-with-star-wars-since-2012/#:~:text=And%20while%20Disney%20will%20make,in%20China%20even%20just%2020%25.&text=So%20total%20profit%20for%20all,little%20less%20than%20%241.2%20billion.
kind of tldr version:
Disney bought star wars for $4 billion.
And these numbers are being super generous.
Movies: $700 million
Home media: $500 million
Merch: $2.2 billion
Games: $1.1 billion
Total profit: $4.5 billion
And Disney+ has not earned a single dime ever since it was launched and instead is a massive multibillion dollar money sinkhole. I think around late 2023/early 2024 is when it just started making somewhat of a profit.
The Acolyte has a production budget of $180 million(again doesn't include marketing budget)
-4 billion + 4.5 billion - 1.4 billion - 180 million = -1.08 billion
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Ummm sweaty... Im not gonna read all that...
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No sauce. Only lies.
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The kind that isn't a nerd, only instead of appealing to general audiences as the originals did, it has pivoted to wokescolds?
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And people who think collecting action figures is an appropriate activity for adults.
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Not only that, but those “11 MILLION VIEWS” numbers are probably based on purely on technicalities, like if you watch one minute of the show and turned it off for being poopoo, they'd still chalk that up as a view to brag to the media and shareholders
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That's the thing with a global streaming service - they can put on the most brain dead slop and still yield millions and millions of viewers and call it a success. That's pretty much the deal with the new SW, enough people in china watch it because it has vroom-vroom shiny laser swords in it - who gives a shit about plot lines and coherent stories?
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11million watched the 2 episode premier, idk how that breaks down per episode. Also it's the fricking premier of course people watch it.
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yet D+ still cant turn a profit
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