Watched American Fiction instead of working. 6/10. Worse than I thought it would be.

I give it a 6/10. Expected a lot more from all the hype I heard about it in the kinosphere.

If you are actually an educated Black, you might give this a soft 8/10. If you are a soycucked redditor you will give this a 9/10 even though you want to give it a 10/10 but people will accuse you of being a gargler of black balls.

Only decided to watch this for my neighbor Jeffrey Wright, who deserves better roles and better than this. Every character in his family is some sort of stereotype of an educated black and I hate it.

TL;DR: No one wants educated blacks because they are white adjacent. They want hood black because its a minstrel show they can enjoy because everyone is so dumb and stupid so their life choices are so comically bad which engages the Mayo. Its essentially Catcher in the Rye but for educated blacks instead of pretentious incels.

I wouldn't even recommend this to your Mayo parents. In fact, make them go watch the Green Book instead of this if you ever need to a smokescreen to show how not-racist you are.

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Any show centered around "blackness" "asianess" (of burger minority type) "latinxness" (again of burger minority type) "queerness" "gayesness" is going to be mid at the best case scenario.

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race is the most boring insipid goddarn thing you could talk about. oh? you're black? you're a black guy? i've never heard of that before that's so interesting. it's so interesting that you're black and you made a whole fricking movie about how precious you are. frick you

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It's just juvenile, it's like watching teenagers bicker about subcultures but adults are doing it and they'll scold you if you don't join in with that juvenile r-slurredness. It's so annoying.

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Isn't that the whole point of the movie

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I realize in hindsight that it was going to be mid because RedLetterMedia or the Chud Reviewers didn't even bother to praise it as a smokescreen. :marseyannoyed:

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I dislike shows centered around identity, the best stories are universal.

You're korean, if you watch a K-drama you'll see an all gook cast, but I bet the soapy story they tell can resonate with anyone, that's why they're so popular around the world.

An all gook cast show made in the United States on the other hand will be centered around "the Asian American" perspective, whatever that means. Mom and dad will be stereotypes who own a laundry business, granny will be homophobic and prejudiced against whites and the kids will be super liberal progs brave for shackling their parents traditional values while displaying the difficulties and racism they face on daily life.

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Beef was like this but I think it escaped the stereotypical family drama stuff because it swerved into straight up psychotic behavior which entertains most people regardless of race

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I should make a schizo-effort post on Ali Wong being a Chink leech that only survives by attaching herself to gooks.

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I'm surprised if she's still pushing the whole anti whitey bit. I saw aznidentity posts seething about her after she got a divorce and started dating Hader.

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Its because she wants Bill Hader to be rougher in bed with her.

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The Asian-American experience is unfathomable to Asians in Asia or Americans in America.

Its so fricking alien, that the closest thing that is comparable to it in my opinion is the Latinx-American experience, in which it doesn't devolve into teen pregnancies and gang violence; which again is wildly alien to Latinx-Latinx and Americans.

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I would think the alienness is similar to how weird it is being an Indian or Middle Easterner in the US. Not that they're similar upbringings necessarily, just that blacks and Latinx have a different starting point with the Americas and their culture isn't so foreign to mayos

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US latinx don't resonate with Latin Americans either, particularly with the Latin American middle class which is a carbon copy of the American White middle class. Remember that with the exception of Cubans and groups of Venezuelan/Colombian/Southern Cone college educated professionals, most Latin Americans who migrated to the US were uneducated Mexican or Central American peasants.

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teen pregnancies and gang violence; which again is wildly alien to Latinx-Latinx

Ehhhhhhhh is it tho?

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Depending on the Latin American country (many are quite safe while others are nightmarish, plus teenage pregnancy rates in Brazil at least are very low) and sometimes class background yes

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I take it you're a big Better Luck Tomorrow fan? Because that's the only film I can think of that really captures what you're talking about. :marseychingchongshooter:

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Aka a warning that if you immigrate to America the Basedness cultivated by millenia of struggle will diminish into generic liberal arts soy

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What's the point of making any media if you don't hold up a mirror to society while doing so?

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Making money.

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Greedy chud!

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That's why the Vietnamese are great. Just open pho shops, fish and chud around

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:marseydisagree: Sorry To Bother You was great.

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Thelonious "Monk" Ellison is a well read African-American upper-class writer and professor in Los Angeles

>Wikipedia plot summary starts with a microaggrsssion

:#marseyxdgenocide:

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as an anti-racist social media liberal i can safely say if you are black and educated and speak like a normal person yer nothing but an uncle tom butt race traitor cooning around for yer white masters. :hmph:

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There were some good/funny moments but they all fell by the wayside and were never revisited to make room for boring "commentary" about :gay: neighbors and shit. The only "honkeys be cray" moment that made me chuckle was the Notorious RBG picture on one of the publishers walls.

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https://i.imgur.com/UoxpAza.gif

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If you are actually an educated Black, you might give this a soft 8/10.

Spot on. !kino, I gave it a 7.5/10. My biggest issue with the film was that it leaned too heavily on the final scene (the "reveal" that everything we saw was just part of the film Monk was writing) as an excuse for why it played into a lot of the things it was ostensibly decrying. From the sister's death onwards, every scene unrelated to the novel, and many of the scenes related to the novel, became pure melodrama. Yes, some of it was what you'd typically find in "white" melodramas rather than "black" melodramas, but that doesn't stop it from being a melodrama, and that last scene doesn't somehow retroactively excuse that. :marseyprojection:

Call it the "Spike Lee Problem". Although in this case, I suppose it's the "Rian Johnson Problem". The second I saw his studio was producing the film, I knew this was the most likely outcome. :normielarp:

Also, and this is a relatively minor gripe, albeit one that effectively demonstrates the problems with the film, I hated that encounter between Monk and Issa Rae's character, the other pandering Black author. She makes a fairly weak argument as to why her book was somehow okay when Monk's wasn't, and the film frames it as though she just dunked all over him and every member of the audience should agree with her. He doesn't even attempt to rebut anything she said. Probably because the filmmakers weren't sure how to rebut it themselves. :npcsupport:

You should read the book it was based on, Percival Everett's Erasure. It was significantly more interesting and insightful, not to mention more clever in its use of metafiction. As always, Hollywood ruins everything. :daffydoubt:

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I liked the running joke in American society of magical negros where the magical negro keeps using his magic touch on white dudes' peepees.

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:#marseyww1russian1:

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