I forgot to watch Kingdom of the Planet of the Macacos in theaters back in May :chuditsover:

Quick fun fact: Planet of the Apes is actually known in here as "Planeta dos !Macacos", which basically means "Planet of the Monkeys", for "Apes", as in, tail-less hominids, the more correct term would have been "Planeta dos Primatas", since Ape means Primate in English, but we do not have specific Portuguese words for Hominids other than Primatas or Símios, but well, "Planeta dos Macacos" is a much more catchy and marketable title! :marseymacacosalute: !kino

Edit: deboonked by @nuclearshill :marseyshapiro:

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Jesus Fricking Christ, are you zoomers trying to give me a fricking aneurysm? Like you must be doing a coordinated trolling attempt to piss me off because you know that real Planet of the Apes is one of my favorite movies.

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It was based on a 1963 French novel La Planète des singes. "Planet of the Apes" is an English approximation of that.

I read it when I was 10 and whatever point Pierre Boule was trying to make probably went over my head, but I remember it was very interesting because if nothing else it was a book so he could write whatever he wanted, which was a modern world full of apes. The movie only made it a primitive society because that was way cheaper to film.

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des singes

Ohhh, I forgot the author was a frog

"Singes" means monkeys/macacos @BWC

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>which was a modern world full of apes. The movie only made it a primitive society because that was way cheaper to film.

Yeah I did read the basics of the book that it was a modern civilization like in the ending of the 2001 Tim Burton abomination, there were televisions, cars, cameras, etc., however, since the book starts in the year of 2500, and humans already have space tourism by then, wasn't the ape civilization that Boule had in mind a 1950s-1960s civilization but with Brapzilians instead of humans? !bookworms

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Caveat that I'm remembering this through the lens of an old guy remembering me being a kid reading this:

It was a satire of French society in his day. Even as a kid I could tell that but I knew that almost all of it was going over my head because I didn't know anything about 1960s France. I got the impression that the whole point of it was he had some statement to make specifically about his own society. Basically "you guys think you're hot shit but literal monkeys could do everything you do". Which would explain why Rod Serling was hired to do the screenplay, because he definitely had that attitude and could translate it into something you could actually film.

A lot of the plot elements are very different from the movie. Some were ripped off by later media. Most embarrassingly, that mission near the end of Mass Effect 3 where the Geth is telling you the history of his people definitely got some inspiration there. But don't even remind me of the end of ME3. :marseydoomer:

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It was a satire of French society in his day

>Les singes représentant les Algériens…

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It's by Pierre Boulle. He spent a lot of time in SE Asia (based) and was stuck in Vietnam during WW2. He's the guy who wrote Bridge on the River Kwai if any of you kids have ever heard of that. Someone who was a better writer than me once said:

You could say that Algeria was France's Vietnam if it wasn't for the fact that Vietnam was also France's Vietnam.

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Frogs were responsible for Vietnam escalating and falling into the commies hands. Luckily their commies are not fond of China and most Viets like the US nowadays lol.

Going back to the book, this is why I don't like the "my book is an allegory of le current thing", because it ages quickly. If representing le current thing was the author's intent, then the 1968 film did a much better job creating new more interesting thematics (evolution, animal treatment, etc.).

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Yeah and I'd say this applies to other stuff Serling wrote like The fricking Twilight Zone. He knew exactly the fricking right way to do sci-fi, where he's dealing with the fricking issues that are fricking important in his time by putting them in a fricking broader context so you can apply it to your own situation generations later. (If that makes any sense. I'm not putting this into words very well.)

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