You mentioned their relationship might remind people of their own relationships, including romantic. There were times watching Celebrimbor and Annatar that I wondered if there was some romantic, or even sexual, underpinning to what was going on there?
MCKAY I would say the nature of this relationship and its closeness, and the even the sexual tension in it, has been a source of speculation by may fans of the source material for many years. Anytime you're dealing with such powerful emotions as seduction and deception, I think it's easy for your imagination to go there.
PAYNE I think you can see it from the beginning of their interactions together in the second episode. Sauron is pulling Celebrimbor in by saying, "There are things I can only tell to you," and, "You always saw me the way no one else could" and "You're safe with me." You're seeing this intimate dance that Sauron is doing. So certainly we could see how people could take that a step further and ship them.
AAAAAAGHHHHHHHH
I thought shipping the Dark Lord with Galadriel was enough but apparently Celebrimbor/Annatar fan-fiction was important to the plot too.
MCKAY And it's also a story of the orcs, right? Adar is an orc who believes that orcs could be something more. They could have a home. He even seems to promise Galadriel they'll leave the rest of Middle-earth alone. In some ways, it's not just the story of how Sauron claims the orc nation, it's also the story of how there was a chance that orcs could have been a people in their own right
Muhh uruk lives matter. NOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE THE ORCERINOS BAD!
The chud sub discussion
And it looks like not even the normie schlock site enjoyed the finale
Also, the Balrog destroying Khazad-dûm is just like the heckin climate change
Over in Khazad-dûm, I always had the impression that once the Balrog was released, he wreaked havoc and drove everyone out of the mines immediately. But in your story, this is more of a gradual corruption process. That city is still occupied and they're still going to be fighting for it going into season three.
MCKAY This is a thing where, how do societies fall? Usually it's gradually, and then all at once. If you want to use climate change as a metaphor, climate change is not an event. Climate change is a process that ebbs and flows, that's always headed in a dark direction. I think a kingdom as great and powerful as Khazad-dûm does not fall in a moment. The fall is the product of many disasters over time. And I think it would sell Khazad-dûm short for the Balrog to get out and then it's all over. It's more complicated. We think there's a bigger story to be told here.
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So the idiots straight up admit they were copying fanfiction. Eru save me. They have not one single original thought in their heads. As for the Balrog, yeah, no shit it didn't overthrow Khazad-dum at one go, but it shouldn't even be turning up now. They're the incompetents who decided they'd tease the audience with glimpses of it and hints that they were going to have it be set loose.
Seriously, how the frick did JJ Abrams manage to get these two clowns hired by Amazon? What kind of dirt does he have on Jeff Bezos????
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JJ Abrams was involved? No wonder it sucks. (I haven't seen it, but now I know I don't need to)
no headpats for that Semite.
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they've literally turned into those weird "shipping" people where any time two male characters show any sort of camaraderie or affection towards each other it obviously means they're gay
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These freaks are so addled that they call friendships r-slurred shit like platonic dating
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!sophistry new buzzword
So if 2 moids become best friends then they're "queerplatonic"
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Yeah, obviously. Everyone knows men can't be friends. Gross. That would be super
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Women aren't funny.
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Welcome to the neurodivergent world of complete r-slurs who can't navigate through life!
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NGMI CRACKER
PALESTINIAN LIVES MATTER
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No you see it's like a romantic dating relationship but without the romance or dating or s*x.
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This is what happe s when you spend your youth on the internet instead of the playground
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This all stems from the r-slurred modern idea that sexual relationships are a higher tier than nonsexual relationships, despite it being historically normal for your closest relationship to be a friendship.
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You mean you don't take a babtist with you on your fishing trips?
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You cannot take this from me
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Tolkiencels should count themselves lucky
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How is that different from the books though?
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yeah the books are just filled to the brim with b-word harpy foids being b-word harpy foids nonstop 24/7. Some actually learn to be better after awhile or in one case after a man peepees her down so hard the bitchiness flees her body like a ghost exorcism.
The difference is the reader knows and understands these women are unreasonable, frequently stupid, and utterly lacking in any kind of self-awareness. The show goes full yaaaaas queen slay because the showrunners fundamentally did not understand that the author was dunking on foids for the entire series.
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@kaamrev they're discussing your favorite fantasy franchise.
Or second favorite, I don't know if you love War Hammer more
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tugs on braid
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[she thrusts her girl peepee into the Witch King's bussy and twists; he shrieks and cums]
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the source material has a lot of nagging and general c*ntery
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!commenters
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I think I'd rather have goth spider mommy than whatever the heck rangz is doing.
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Me too
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Decide for yourself i guess
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This can't be real.
It looks like babies first modelling gig.
It's literally a black dress with some tendriled material (supposed to represent legs?). Frick that's uninspired for a representation of a spider.
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Wait that was the game not the show.
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I can see that
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BIG MAIA PEEPEE
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I have to give it to Charlie Vickers, I was more impressed by him in this season than in the first. He did a good job with Annatar, at least as good a job as possible with the dumb writing and directing ('Okay Charlie, now after you torture and murder the guy, you cry because you're sad he forced you to kill him, that lets the audience know you're not a bad person, just misunderstood, right?")
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They should have introduced Annatar on season 1 instead of that ridiculous "Halbrand" plot
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When you have to play the "good guy" in a smut book fantasy series
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I'm really surprised people aren't fedpostinmg IRL on these destroyers of beloved stories.
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What is this from and does the bottom chick show her tits in it?
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The OC, and no I don't think so. Also top girl is best girl.
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I know we here are woke to the tumblr/fanfiction foid menace, but it's nuts to think that the attitudes towards shipping, etc I laughed at but thought was harmless 15 years ago is now mainstream and multibillion dollar corporations are stocking their writers rooms with such people
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They're trying to give the potential audience fanservice, but the problem is, the people who ship Sauron and Celebrimbor etc. are not watching this show. The people watching are (1) Tolkien book and lore nerds like myself and we're infuriated by the crap they're throwing onscreen and (2) casual TV viewers/streamers who just want to watch something entertaining without having to think too hard, maybe they know about the movies but maybe not.
Neither set of viewers want to see Sauron getting it on with Celebrimbor or Galadriel. Lore nerds because WHAT THE ACTUAL EVERLIVING FRICK and the casuals because 'hang on, I thought she was the girlfriend of that Elrond guy?'
The worst thing is that they don't have the balls to come out and put a genuine gay relationship into the show. They've already fricked with canon six ways from Sunday, why not? But no, Amazon wants that family-friendly show that will be watched overseas, and the Indian and Chinese audiences are not going to watch gay smut. So they prefer to play coy little games like this with the media: "oh if you want to look at it like that it could be interpreted as a romantic relationship".
Idiots are one thing, cowards are another thing. But being both idiots and cowards is too much.
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They could make shows in a generic fantasyslop setting that is Tolkien with the names changed (like how Warhammer and a bunch of Jap cartoons have done) with all the cute twinks kissing a foid consoomer could possibly ask for, and leave the pre-existing IPs alone but nooooooo.
Watch them figure this shit out once the iron is no longer hot and BookTok has moved on to something else besides whatever foid nonsense is going on here:
Like just do The Vampire Diaries in not Middle-Earth, with Star Trek style makeup on the male love interests to make them look "monstrous". Cast non-whale actresses and make it fun and funny like Xena, and they could probably get straggot males tuning in too. This can be done cheaply.
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Have they had any relationships on the show? Aside from Dwarf Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, everybody seems to be single, even characters who should be married.
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Then again it makes sense that those shipping-obsessed foids would be much more likely than normal people to try and get into showbusiness and writing than normal people...
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Hiring managers when they see a 23 year old staff writer candidate with 10 years of writing experience:
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It used to be pretty low to be considered a TV writer for a reason.
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!g*mers was this hinted at in those Shadow of War games?
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I mean, he says "doryaa~" which is a Japanese battle cry.
Japanese = Rising Sun
Sun = Global Warming
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Even the shadow of war games were better written than that (i would frick pollyanna mcintosh thanks for asking)
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https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1727351961142213.webm
!kino
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How many gorillions did this show cost? Everything about it looks amateur as frick.
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It's part of a globalist plot to destroy western culture, it was never meant to turn a profit
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Season 1 production costed 465 million dollars, not including 250 million dollars paid to the Tolkien Estate for the rights.
Season 2 budget was not disclosed
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https://old.reddit.com/r/LOTR_on_Prime/
who are these people on this sub?
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ChatGPT bots hosted on AWS.
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they cant all be bots.
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You're right. Some might be Indians or Bangladeshis in a slave-center posting comments at a competitive market rate.
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at least Amazon is spreading the money.
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zoz
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zozzle
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NPC humans.
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!ringbearers !nooticers thoughts?
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what the frick does
even mere here. We are so deep into nuspeak that what would have been an online visitor counter in the 00's is now a key metric in prudent management of viewers
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They don't know what they're talking about Sauron/Morgoth OTP
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I think you mean Mairon/Morgoth, don't you?
(I've seen the shipping art. You have not seen what I have seen).
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In fanfics everything is possible
(I'll take your word that your fanart were very traumatizing )
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i hope next season has them doing a really explicit s*x scene
that's the kind of story change grown men deserve for caring bout hobbits n sheeit
CMV: Globohomo is doing nerds a favor by killing off everything they loved as children. It's time to trade in their funkos for kids, rifles, and lawnmowers.
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orcs are unnatural abominations
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"It's deep trust and betrayal, the kind that can happen in friendship and in romance, feels awful. If you want, you can 'ship' them, but the point is the closeness and betrayal."
"THEY MADE THEM CUTE TWINKS! THEY SAID CAHLAKAZAGNOG AND SADURONAN WERE GAY AND SUCKING EACH OTHER'S PEEPEES! WHAT NEXT? THEY'RE GOING TO POINT OUT THE THE WIZWOG OF SNORLAX HAS NO GENDER?!?"
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Shut up, b-word.
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Snapshots:
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https://old.reddit.com/r/Rings_Of_Power/comments/1fzkmz5/rop_showrunners_think_celebrimbor_sauron_might_be/:
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