They don't serve the same purpose, there's not the same incentive for those making decisions to negotiate against them, and from a Marxist perspective their excess labor value is not being usurped by the capitalist class.
They don't serve the same purpose, there's not the same incentive for those making decisions to negotiate against them
Exactly, I've always thought of private sector unions as being limited to what the company is financially able to give them, if the union is delusional they'll all pay for it when the company cuts their losses, closes the plant, and everybody's out of a job. But in the Public sector, it's not like the government can go out of business.
But in the Public sector, it's not like the government can go out of business.
Yep. And this leads to shit like exploding pension costs leading to courts ordering governments to raise taxes or cut other services. Public sector unions are organized against taxpayers.
Unions represent the best way for private sector works to retaliate against the CEO and board of directors. Public sector employees get to vote on their CEO and leaders.
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My issue is the perverting of the relationship between government and public unions. They should be oppositional to each other but in practice they are in bed with each other.
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Yeah. In my country government workers are straight up barred from having unions or striking, because theyre servants of the state, not just laborers. in exchange they get really good bennies. It used to be a pretty good system until our leftoid politicians fricked with it and basically removed any chance to fire them for dereliction of duty or not doing their work. So now they can just not work, like burger public workers with their unions.
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Public Sector Unions are one of the reasons shit sucks here.
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Public sector unions are just the leftist version of privatized government capture.
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FDR straight up hated them, and he loved unions.
They don't serve the same purpose, there's not the same incentive for those making decisions to negotiate against them, and from a Marxist perspective their excess labor value is not being usurped by the capitalist class.
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Exactly, I've always thought of private sector unions as being limited to what the company is financially able to give them, if the union is delusional they'll all pay for it when the company cuts their losses, closes the plant, and everybody's out of a job. But in the Public sector, it's not like the government can go out of business.
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Yep. And this leads to shit like exploding pension costs leading to courts ordering governments to raise taxes or cut other services. Public sector unions are organized against taxpayers.
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Unions represent the best way for private sector works to retaliate against the CEO and board of directors. Public sector employees get to vote on their CEO and leaders.
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I'd say the main Canadian Public Sector Union for Federal employees, is known to represent employees badly, and pisses off everyone.
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My issue is the perverting of the relationship between government and public unions. They should be oppositional to each other but in practice they are in bed with each other.
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Yeah. In my country government workers are straight up barred from having unions or striking, because theyre servants of the state, not just laborers. in exchange they get really good bennies. It used to be a pretty good system until our leftoid politicians fricked with it and basically removed any chance to fire them for dereliction of duty or not doing their work. So now they can just not work, like burger public workers with their unions.
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