Context: Samuel R. Delany is a prolific sci-fi author who: is gay, was sexually abused as a kid (but denies it was abuse), and grew up to believe that man/boy sexual relationships should not be criminalized.
READ IT -> I've written about him in an earlier dramapost <- READ IT
Despite his love of man/boy child abuse, Delany continues to have a huge fandom - particularly among people who normally love a good cancellation (again, read my previous post). On Monday, The New Yorker published a charming interview with him which included a reference to him "once praising a NAMBLA newsletter". In reality, he has his own page on the NAMBLA website and has been very explicit over the years, including this quote from a 2009 biography:
Today, The New Yorker piece made it's way to Hacker News. The thread isn't very long, but the takes are entertaining:
What's "transitive" about Delany's support for NAMBLA? They have one policy and it's in their fricking name.
2009 is well over two decades ago
Why are you going digging in for dirt in someone's comment history to defend a NAMBLA supporter?
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I was so fricking disappointed when I found out Allen Ginsberg was an unironic supporter of NAMBLA. He was my favourite of the Beat Poets, after Kerouac (of course), and I even had front-row seats for a performance of his when in played in my town in the 90s.
I'm pretty vanilla sexually, and while I don't normally begrudge even the freakiest of people indulging their kinks, I do however draw the line at children. Every person deserves an innocent childhood, and the right to enter into sexuality on their own terms.
"Never meet your heroes", as the old saying goes.....
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R-slur.
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The Beat movement was all degenerate whiny addict losers who revelled on selfishness and wordswordswords over how stealing, beating their girlfriends and generally being massive pieces of shit was like societies fault man. They truly heralded the downfall of American society and have been copied by so many hack writers since that anything they did that was unique now looks the way it always should have- utterly derivative vapid bullshit
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Imagine ever stanning for Ginsberg lol. Howl was the most obvious cringey shit ever! This shit wasn't subversive it just sucked lol!!
Go read some fricking Whitman for Christ's sake
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If Whitman were alive today he'd probably be shitposting trad wojak memes
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Nah he'd be at the bathhouses and everyone would request his bottom, the best bottom of all
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Like I said Whitman is keyed.
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Burroughs is best beat and not even just because he shot a foid. And even though he was a p-do, I don’t think he tried to justify it. I don’t know though
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