Joyce Carol Oates :marseyrowling: causes massive seethe amongst David Lynch :hanging: fanboys by calling Twin Peaks :marseytwins: r-slurred :marseyxd:.

https://x.com/JoyceCarolOates/status/1762842247228268580

All her tweets on the matter.

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That's funny because Joyce Carol Oates's Twitter feed, at times, seem like vignettes from Twin Peaks The Return

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"she just doesn't get it bro. " :marseydisagree:

What's weird here is that a lot of her own work is surreal, has many layers of reality and people who question their own sanity, she uses satire in dark ways, she has been an English professor for decades so presumably knows how to analyze others' art and does so well with Lynch's other work. I'm just not sure what her payoff is in repeating the “brain damaged” line (which seems inaccurate and mean-spirited to me), and it is painfully obvious that she doesn't understand either melodrama or satires of melodrama.

David lynch hates words. Words are her element. Makes sense she doesn't like his dialogue.

If words are her element she should use them better.

These people genuinely think they're some sort of enlightened souls just because they enjoy David Lynch. :marseyeyeroll:

I think there are two kinds of audience (broadly speaking, obviously); the kind that see something that triggers their imagination and sends them into a kind of imaginative engagement with what they are seeing; and the kind that expect what they see to do the imagining for them. Both are valid modes of reception, but the first has the advantage of including the latter in what it can appreciate whereas the second constantly needs to be convinced to remain engaged, and therefore cannot appreciate anything that requires them to imaginatively buy into what they are seeing.

Another user thinks she isn't good enough to critique Lynch. :marseyglancing:.

I'm not just saying this as a TP fan, in fact I've avoided saying it because of how it looks, but everything I've seen from her seems to be on the level of a third rate Chekhov or a third rate Shirley Jackson, depending on genre. If someone like Ishiguro said what she said, I'd be disturbed, but I wouldn't pretend to dismiss their ability. Obviously I'm in a minority about her.

Multiple accusation JCO being Dull and Pretentious :marseysmirk:

Dull and pretentious is exactly how I'd describe the majority of these tweets.

Says the lady who exclusively writes pretentious slow dull excursions.

JCO is media illiterate as well according to these redditors:marseysurejan:.

The world is full of media illiterate people.

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Serious question, who is this woman and why should I give a flying frick what she thinks of Twin Peaks? Her tweets read like a crazy old lady with dementia who should have had her phone taken away.

Old senile lady who posts bullshit opinions a lot. She posted her foot one time and it is truly gross

:marseypuke:

Anyway, lots of "literally who?" comments by the "media literate" intellectuals on /r/DavidLynch regarding JCO. Lots of seethe in the quote tweets as well :marseycope:.

!kino !anime !fellas

@JoyceCarolOates

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You either watch twin peaks and enjoy it 100% or think it's completely stupid and has nothing worthwhile. I've seen very little inbetween.

The fricking seethe from both sides thinking they're gigabrained for their opinions is fricking always good.

Look at the fricking posts on the fricking twin peaks subreddit of everyone soying out over the fricking YouTuber who came up with a fricking theory that explained the fricking whole show.

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Which is funny because from everything I've seen of Twin Peaks. While there is some stuff that is plainly represented, it seems to be more focused on evoking a certain feeling or emotion. But people can't just enjoy things for what they are. They HAVE to know what it all means, almost neurodivergentally so. Just to prove that, yes, I am smart for understanding this.

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I agree. After watching mulholland drive multiple times, I thought the same thing, that trying to find a plain meaning to the narrative would be like looking at an abstract painting and trying to reduce it to the everyday objects it may or may not depict. Sure, you could do that, and some people might even enjoy taking everything literally all the time, but they're kind of missing the point.

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Donnie Darko is another one like that. It's just vibes

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Mullholland drive is abstract cause you can't just come out and say that the jews use the allure of hollywood to funnel women into the porn industry

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I liked the four hour twin peaks breakdown. The guy was annoying, but he did a good job of connecting the symbols and showing how consistently they are used. Gave me a deeper appreciation for Lynch

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I'm glad you got something out of it but don't take it as the only reading of Twin Peaks. Always try and take others ideas, opinions, and considerations into your own thoughts and come to your own conclusions.

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well yeah. like, i pretty much disagree with that dudes whole thesis. but he did a good job showing that a lot of the weird, idiosyncratic stuff in twin peaks and lynches other work is definitely used intentionally and not just there to be weird

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:#ragestrangle:

Me every time that guy did a David Lynch impression

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So true bestie.

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Ulysses

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The first time I watched it, I was 14, had the flu, was staying home from school in the middle of March, probably because the women in the preview were hot

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The weird Americana/everyone talking like they are stroking out hits different at a high fever

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I'm in between. I love Twin Peaks except for the stupid soap opera shit and no, "we deliberately made it a soap opera" is not an excuse for making those parts boring as frick.

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