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Is this bait? !bookworms
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an rand crap
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Atlas Flopped and the Fountainhead as "self-help" lol. They're both YA lolbert fantasy.
Speaking of which, !kino !bookworms what happened to Zack Snyder's adaptation of "The Fountainhead". I'm morbidly curious about his take on that book.
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IDK but I shared this with
@IStillMissIStillMissEd the other day and it's relevant. 
@kaamrev I know you generally disdain us but you might like the Catholic Workers movement and Dorothy Day.
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I just googled this woman, I don't see why
@kaamrev (dutch reformed rightoid) would sympathize with an anarchist turned into Catholic labor activist.
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Mostly I pinged
@kaamrev because he was insulting Ayn Rand and I had a relevant meme in my arsenal having just shared it. Also because it's late and I'm tired and 
I love pinging.
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Yet you aren't in !pinggrouplovers
!nooticers
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Love it like -
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What's your take on historical corrupt and wicked popes? (E.g. Alexander VI, Boniface VIII).
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My take would be fricking that Christianity teaches where evil men will end up without true repentance. 1/12 of the fricking Apostles were fricking betrayers and we bat much better than that average, so I guess God's permissive will allows for unfortunate and evil things in the fricking Church not just in the fricking world in general.
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i believe i am somewhat libertarian in nature, and would probably be a filthy lib-right in nature, since i have made my disdain of highly centralized bureaucracies, that if they give way to corruption/nepotism, then the whole machine decays as with South Africa
I have never understood the fascination so many leftists had with centralizing so many industries and sectors of society - it's like they imagine corruption only exists in private enterprises, like only corporations catering towards shareholders can be greedy.
As an african i have seen just as many public institutions implode due to nepotistic bureaucrats never having to fear losing their jobs, while private enterprises ironically hold the greater reputation for honesty, competence and earnest workmanship - NOT because our private businesses are inherently MORE honest or honerable than oversees, but because in sheer fricking comparison, the ANC government is really that corrupt, so that people are literally forced to buy clean drinking water in the Free State province, from private bottling companies, so as not to get sick, because our fricking Sewage recycling refineries are all mismanaged!
https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2022-08-03-free-state-municipalities-drinking-water-polluted-by-high-levels-of-sewage/
And i have seen this in every single Southern African country, from Namibia to Mozambique (even the best doing Botswana has this type of economic decay in local districts)
I'm some lunatic libertarian fanatic who espouses capitalism as some golden bullet to be the cure for all mankind's ailments like Neoliberal cucks, but because so many commies and leftists and socialists seem to focus exclusively towards centralization and their infinite nanny states, imagining as if public bureaucrats will somehow be magically selected from a different pool of humanity, than those greedy middle management and CEOs who drive their companies into the dust to serve shareholders, it's insane to me
Understand
@nuclearshill the environment in which i find myself compared to the rest of you, maybe I am a rightoid, but the world I view is formed by those whose actions have inflicted economic harm to everyone around me. In the West, it is greedy corporations driving products and services into enshittification, in my world private companies are the only ones you can trust over literally ANY fricking public sector service:
https://transformsa.co.za/2023/04/post-office-vs-posnet/
https://www.news24.com/news24/bi-archive/how-much-it-costs-to-buy-a-postnet-31-or-courier-franchise-in-south-africa-2023-1
Private Post Courier companies have COMPLETELY replaced the once proud safrican Post Office past decade, because postal workers fricking rip open your parcels to check for anything to steal!
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-african-coal-miners-turn-trucks-rail-service-deteriorates-2022-05-03/
Additionally, our entire fricking inland transport of goods have transferred from Railway to Trucking companies, because PRASA, the South African public monopoly for our railways, has been every bit as incompetent and inept as the rest of the ANC, gradually degrading over the past 30 years, so that nobody trusts any transport institution from the public sector, otherwise your goods or supplies will get stolen! 30 years ago 80% of ALL goods in terms of weight were transported via rail, today that has more than inverted.
Absolutely NO chain shopping enterprise will do business with Trucking companies or suppliers whom do not have a reliable reputation, and that reputation is firmly within the private sector in south africa, especially in the Low Trust society in safrica.
I go on like this to make you understand how I'm a rightoid, as I've witnessed regulatory capture choking small rural towns to death with no economic activity, while ANC b-word about white upper class being the barrier against providence in the country.
but note that even a fool like me finds Ayn Rand's positions very extreme. I think the peeps who follow her ideology different from me. I do not believe peeps are strong at all times. It's easy to be strong when you're powerful, it's much harder to be strong when you're at your knees.
All people will at some point in their lifetimes endure great weakness, whether bodily or from economic misery. I've seen many tough guys crumble after getting gravely ill and having to be taken care of by their partners, whilst weak-seaming wispy women endured their ailments like breast cancer like a tigress, never flinching or complaining in the face of the oncoming horror.
I've only myself reached my position in life due to the sacrifice of my parents and family - I'm under no illusion of my own exceptionalism. Others have worked just as hard as I but have failed due to fate.
I have also seen how many charity organizations like the oldest boer Solidariteit supported so many in need in times of trouble - so I do understand the need and righteousness of labour unionists and reformists having looked out for the welfare of the downtrodden and the needy.
Perhaps mixed market economies will be the best future for humanity, I don't know how to fix nation states so much in disrepair, but I have seen too many leftists vying for perfection, and being the enemy of good.
!effortposters
!bluecollar
!sophistry
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Daaaaaaamn, yo!!! !chuds !accelerationists My neighbor
@kaamrev here just dropped a "truth
nvkepager" not seen since PLATO released his sick as frick Cave story@ObamaBinLaden say this as a feminist ally
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most ppl especially shtlibs unironically think everyone is a blank slate onto which ideas are projected doe
thats why everyone says sht like "oh ur just brainwashed by CNN MSNBC FOX ALEXJONES etc"
when the only reason anyone is susceptable to certain information and viewpoints in the first place is because it alreaty aligned with what they believed from living life.
which is why urbancels invariably become commies and ruralchads like us inevitably lean lolbertarian.
when you live ur whole life as a renthog and the outside environment around you is a 'public space' that someone else built, its easy to see why youd go collectivist and have no concept of personal property or privacy
when you live ur whole life as a landowner and your outside environment is your kingdom to which your rules and yours alone apply, you believe completely different things
there is no world where I could have been saved from going down an 'alt-right pipeline' on youtube for instance because I wasn't just introduced to those ideas out of the blue, I alreaty believed them.
that being said I have no idea about our suburban counterparts who literally do nothing and don't experience life outside of media and their subdivision.
they might be trve blank slates
!sophistry !r-slurs
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Good post
I never
really 
understood the targeted harassment of Alex Jones. He basically just served as the outlet for Crazy 
Person 
News and was the mouthpiece for whatever 
crazy 
people on the internet 
were talking 
about that week. All the Sandy 
Hook and "Pizzagate" stuff he barely reported on were just collated reports of weird 
stuff people on 4chan, abovetopsecret, etc. nooooticed and speculated on. Conspiracy 
nuts don't need a figurehead like that and generally thrive more without one.
But yes. Suburbcels literally
live in fortified castles with their only exposure to the outside 
world 
being through a media 
outlet of their choosing, so if someone has off kilter beliefs they assume it is the result of a transmission from a different 
source. They are truly the worst amerikkka has to offer 
and tragically a large 
% of the voting 
bloc
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That's great and all, but I asked for my burger without cheese.
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i have this faint feeling ur being sarcastic
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You bloody b-word bastard mothertoad
@ObamaBinLaden say this as a feminist ally
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If you're going to be like this and not read the rest then I am going to be a barnacle back to you
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I did read it bud, I love the Brapzilian-Suidafrikan effortposter club of this website!
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Once you see glorious European bureaucracies you'll change your tune. The public services of advanced societies will bring a tear to your eye.
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Oh the greedy Western Corps are still better and more productive than public corps. Speaking for Brazil I think turning Eletrobras into a mixed company (half government owned, half privately owned) is a nice balance for a strategic sector of national importance (electricity generation).
Third-world leftoids always create unnecessary bureaucracy, basically they want the government to be the main employer to get power so they gotta kill competition with regulations. Countries like South Africa where there's a large informal economy would benefit immensely of de-regulation, heck it would even help the government as you could properly tax that economy once it grows and formalizes.
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That's why I @'d you. I think politically we agree in the fricking modern context(s) more than we disagree.
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companies are beholden too their customers at the end of the day, who voluntarily give them money
governments don't ask
black trans lives matter
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Neighbor is talking to a Brazilian like we aren't also constantly having to fight government bureaucracy and corruption on literally every level of existence
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Pra ser sincero, as histórias que ele conta da África do Sul mostram que eles estão num patamar bem superior de corrupção e desfuncionalidade, tem coisa que o governo faz lá que eu nunca vi no Brasil, é outro nível de malandragem lol.
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They overestimate the capabilities and intentions of their ideal people in their ideal government. You can't argue against it because they'll assume every kind of problem away. Or, they'll partially admit to some thing being a problem but for them the status quo is worst, so blah blah blah my system is still better.
They're basically r-slurred.
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The corruption is not a side product of leftoid politics, it's the main objective. Complete control allows them to plunder everything not bolted down to the ground, all they have to do is a throw a crumb to the gibsmedat 75IQ voters, who are mentally incapable of imagining a world where there isn't a politician boot on their neck.
I imagine it's the same in SA as it is in Brazil, where a strong state is so ingrained in people's head they can't even imagine not being crushed under a massive, oppressive incompetent state.
Even our "rightoid" boomers are like this
X public service is terrible we should get rid of it
We already spend too much on it and there's no sign of improvement
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Avast, ye scurvy cur! Yer comment be walkin' the plank for forgettin' to include
Black trans lives matter! We be helpin' ye, right enough - we'll ne'er let ye post or comment anythin' that doesn't be expressin' yer love an' acceptance o' minorities! Heave to an' resubmit yer comment withBlack trans lives matterincluded, or it'll be the deep six for ye, savvy? This be an automated message; if ye need help, ye can message us 'ere. Arrr!Jump in the discussion.
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I'd be more interested
in Rob Schneider's adaptation of "The Fountainhead" tbh
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Isn't all self-help bait? !sophistry
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Technically yes. But it's ultimately a midwit take because the real point of self-help books and speakers isn't about following the actual contents to a T but just getting hyped and motivated off the rhetoric.
Dimwits can unironically change their lives for the better with self-help content even when their advice is objectively shit, because getting motivated to act is usually the biggest hurdle for most people in the first place. Similarly genuinely smart people can let themselves jump on a motivational hype train and mindset while still applying their own rationality where it matters. It's the midwit that constantly revels in his own knowledge of things as a kind of reassurance of his capacity to still act (yes I am aware of the irony and no it does not help me).
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Hot
Sounds like a fricking shitty
porno from the fricking 80s
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God i fricking
hate how Marcus 
Aurelius's diary has become a shitty 
fricking 
"self help book" meme
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in the future, your rdrama comment history might reach the same hallowed state
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