The strags of /r/DragonAge deleted a very dramatic thread and I CAN'T FIND IT, because I was browsing on another PC
Anyways I'm turning this into a rant post.
You guys ever get tired of these /r/GaymingCircleJerk leftoid fricks who reiterate and regurgitate the constant mEDIA lITERACY talking point about how the in-universe of a media supports THEIR particular brand of modern contemporary PRESSENTISM views?
You know the types - well over the past year since the Dragon Age FAILGUARD slapfights, a lot of liberal peeps have been denouncing the originator of the series (DA Origins 2009) to make Veilguard seem less shitty in retroactive comparison, especially in terms of writing and in-universe political lore.
And one constant
r-sluration they continued to spout was that apparently that they could not figure of what precisely the game (DA Origins 2009) was trying to say in terms of it's political commentary.
An example is even way back when, when Zero Punctuation guy stated in his video from like 10 years ago, he could not grasp "wtf the game was trying to say politically"
as in all of these shitlibs could not comprehend what the political message was trying be!
Because in-universe for the ignorant, magic users (mages) live a double-edged life. Magic comes at a cost, basically mages are connected to an ethereal dream dimension called the Fade, from which they draw their power, and in-universe mages are very very powerful. But stupid or poorly disciplined or foolish mages can easily be possessed by entities from this dream dimension and lose their minds,
and basically become rogue school shooters with flamethrowers and rocket launchers attached to their arms, and completely devastate communities, causing mass shooting casaulties in the hundreds before being taken down by Dark Age police. Because of this, mages are feared and ostracized, and kidnapped when they show magic attunement during their adolescence, and forced to live their lives in these Wizard Tower prisons their whole lives. Except when the lord of the land conscripts their talents to flamethrower fantasy orc zombies every decade or so
Point is this grimdark gimmick, makes being a very power magic user in-universe, just as much of a massive bane as a boon, and the whole setting and its medieval in-universe morality and politics are shaped by this.
You as the player character can shape the world into adhering to this Wizard Tower Prison doctrine for the safety of the community or advocate for freedom and other boring shit for the school shooter mages.
But of course shitlibs are so neurodivergent, they are like: WHO IS THIS GAME REFERRING TO? The gays, the jews or the blacks?
They are too foidbrained to realize that all of the fake fiction morality and politics are unique and explicitly not dependent upon real world events. They take inspiration from history, but create their own unique in-universe setting.
The amount of midwits and Medea Literacycels who endlessly type how confused they are about Elf ghettos and what the games are trying to say is funny.
It reminds me also of Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, and the 3hour philosophy Youtube videos and reddit sneeds about how the fake fictional in-universe factions and their unique moralities TOTALLY supports their modern contemporary commie beliefs.
It's ironic that they espouse the Media Literacy meme so much
and then display their confusion at fictionalized factions and fake in-universe moralities and moral conflicts.
It's like they have something like Reverse-Media-Literacy-Illiteracy or whatever. Like they are incapable of interpreting new complex questions and moral conundrums posed to them (by vidya slop standards) by new unique settings which do not adhere to the secular religious doctrines of modern Presentism Shitlibery.
It's like they are like
OMG WHO IS THE GOOD GUY AND BAD GUY
whenever they are confronted with fantasy morality that isn't turbo wingcuck propaganda
"My PRESENTISM Youtube Philosophy Tuber hasn't spoken about how Crapitalism is evil about this shooter game yet! HOW am i supposed to know who to vie for!?"
As in they literally cannot comprehend fictional moral complexity OUTSIDE of the framework of their current contemporary modern day shitlib doctrines
I've fricking seen r-slurs be like "I don't understand what Ursula Leguin was saying in Left Hand of Darkness" cuz they cannot shoehorn their Presentism into the unique worldbuilding of a Novel written 60 years ago.
!bookworms what do YOU
guys think of this
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I legit burst out laughing until I had a coughing fit. It's a video game about a bunch of gay-butt elves waving around magic wands and shit and they're treating it like it's John Locke's Two Treatises of Government.
These tards who need to turn everything into politics are kind of mystifying to me. I guess it's like how a normal person wants to be part of something bigger than themself. But these people don't even have any sense of self, so all they can do is try to grasp onto something bigger. It's like being a radical Islamist except without at least having some balls.
The only writer I know of who really could use games to take on any complex issues was Chris Avellone, and they cancelled him. Last I heard he'd won his lawsuit so he's probably retired and living off his settlement money now.
Having been alive and actually aware of wtf was going on in the 1990s when this setting was developed: Nothing in this has anything to do with zoomer or late millenial ideas of politics. It was just a completely different world and you can't fit into a 2020s mold. The closest thing to zoomer politics you'll find is Damsel and even there it would be a mistake to take the comparison too far. She's an annoying punk rock girl of a type that's much more a left-over from the 1980s than a precursor to the LGBTQIA+ polycule "communists" of today.
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Yeah that's the point, the writers for bloodlines made complete original faction and ideological rivalries unique to that universe and wingcucks tries of to fit that Framework onto our real world when the writers of these types of media explicitly go out of their way to have no real world connections in order to foster originality
And wingcucks have their brains 🧠🧠🧠 go haywire cuz they can't find and obvious reference or comparison to real world contemporary sentiments
especially fricking fiction written decades ago which had other cultural conflicts like Left hand of Darkness
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The characters in VtM: Bloodlines feel real because they have personality traits that remind you of real people you know. Wingcucks don't know people with personalities so they're lost if they can't make it political.
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This game has goated voice lines. They should honestly just cancel the new one and remake the original. That and Arcanum.
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They also can't imagine a work having themes about like love, duty, sacrifice, compassion, etc. They just think themes are politics.
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why is your comment saved twice
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I guess 2 people thought it was clever or something?
When I save my own comments it's usually just when I intend to expand on it later and turn it into a post. But I never end up doing that.
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Its a lot like starship troopers, just a complete denial of whatever orignial content was for someone to write a 100% seetheplay about their strawmans so transparent it actually makes the fascists look cool. A lot of liberal media is like this.
I have another point on M night shamalayns The Village which was designed specifcally to mock elitest liberals while flying over their heads
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I think part of it is that they're insecure about only consuming slop. They want to be serious literature people or whatever but they never sit down and read serious literature.
So they try and argue that actually Elf Booty Simulator 5 is very serious and is filled with big boy political themes.
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Same dumbass media literacy types who think JK Rowling endorses slavery because characters in her book do
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She could have at LEAST had a trigger warning, there are so many people who that will bring up traumatic past live memories too!
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Sometimes I really wonder how this "media literacy" thing gets picked up. Is it just the end product of having a bunch of overly educated r-slurs?
These people are no better than the people who does "literary analysis" by shoehorning all kinds of dumb stuff into their work.
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This isn't coming from academia. The "media literacy" crowd is a cargo cult of people who've never read a book for pleasure (let alone taken a literature class) trying to brute-force recreate literary criticism by watching YouTube videos. It is absolutely detached from everything going on in academia, (including from "woke" frames like queer theory or whatever).
The language used is very different. I've never heard a professor talk about "media literacy" or "character arcs" or "magic systems" or anything else you'd see on /r/characterrant. The concept of "coding" (eg. Queer coding) is at least vaguely derived from media studies, but the people talking about it online are getting the topic third-hand, clumsily mis-applying it to determine if the work is "good" or "bad." (Which is mostly beside the point in academia).
These people are looking for something safe and approved to consoom, and to score points by taking down "bad" stuff. They owe far more to TVTropes and the Nostalgia Critic than they do to any scholarly tradition.
!bookworms !writecel
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Magic Systems is the Mormon hack brando sando. Magic systems appeal to people who think the height of fiction is "lore" and how easy it is to convert something into wiki pages.
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So true king
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So, it's a bunch of normies that follows another self-important normie, and they just feed off bad takes at each other?
That somehow sounds worse than overly educated r-slurs
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It's reddit nonsense like "whataboutism." It spreads because it reaffirms their echo chamber beliefs.
Simple as, motherlover.
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It's not complicated politically either. It all boils down to "frick elves those bastards suck."
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The veilguard writers embraced this by making the elves responsible for basically every bad thing in the dragonage setting
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!poll_voters
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both, they will call me the vance of elves with how much i hate (and hate frick) elves
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Talos will guide my sword and my peepee.
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zoz
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zle
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One of the other consequences of media literacy is that it leads to fear from the writers in adding plot elements that they know their audience will try to connect to real events.
You see this most in Veilguard by the refusal of the writers to address the elf question.
I definitely assumed that Veilguard would be the story of the elves. After all, for better or worse (def worse), the question of mages vs templars had essentially been answered in inquisition, leaving the Elf question to be the last to be awnsered.
Did the Elves deserve revenge for how they've been treated? Should their immortality be restored? What would a world with a re-empowered elves look like?
Especially because the game was originally about the Elven god Solas, and taking in place the center of Elf oppression, Tevinter, i think its hard to blame me for having these expectations.
The Veilguard writers turned the premise on it's head by dropping all the exposition about how the Elf creators are the cause of pretty much every bad thing in the DA setting, even having them being the first sinners by what they did to the Titans/Dwarves
This could have been really interesting, but the player and game world never ties these revelations to the state of the elves themselves. Instead, the status of the Elves is just ignored entirely for a smaller story that hyper focuses on the actions of the evil gods themselves.... So boring. There isn't even really a character that represents the Dalish. Your one sorta Dalish companion basically has nothing to say but that she feels bad... great
Obviously they where terrified of having their oppression stand-ins actually be complex and not just total victims
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Bioware have been doing it for a while, the Genophage in ME1 merely brought down the fertility rate of the Krogan to match the other species with the debate being on the ethics of bioweapons and how Krogan culture couldn't cope with the shock of 99.9% of eggs being dead. Then ME2 makes it a sterility plague with some immune to it and 3 turns it into i made him a steak that no one but the most evil of evildoers would choose to perpetuate. Large commercial fiction is allergic to anything that might be controversial. The genophage or elves in early installments has the room to be actually nuanced and interesting but then by the time its got a mass audience it has to be wholesome chungus Manichaean morality. I hate what ME2 did to Mass Effect.
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Mordin: "Noooo we need to heckin cure them!!!!!1! I was le evil!!!"
Me: "say hi to Malthus"
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I hope you had chatgpt pen that one fam
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I have heard a lot of insane takes over the last few years
TLOU2 wasn't woke, it was truth. And people hate the truth
Pokemon evolutions are just transitions
Snakes & Ladders is a commentary on capitalism
But there's one group of g*mers and games nobody seem to ever frick around with
I have never seen anyone critically analyze and come up with a political angle in games like Rule the Waves 3 or Gary Grigsby
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Everyone knows Snakes and Ladders is about the struggle to reach nirvana through virtue and so escape the cycle of reincarnation.
!bharatiya !r-slurs !sophistry !medialiterates
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Doesn't virtue require free will? Doesn't Shoots and Ladders operate entirely on randomness?
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Buddhism with Calvinist characteristics.
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Hence the struggle.
In the grand cosmic scheme of things, it was predestined that I would drive drunk at 60 mph through a school zone for deaf children.
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So does being a burnout druggie really lead to the same deep truths that ritualistic meditating does OR do 20 years of meditating simply fry your brain like in that egg PSA
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The political angle is that the solution to all problems is a military coup led by the Admiralty.
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The fact that there is plenty of lit that actually is intentionally making analogies to the real world essentially guarantees that midwits will assume every story premise ever is also trying to do so.
Since Halderman's Forever War was based on his experience in Vietnam, that means that every scifi war going forward is a direct analogy to some sort of conflict.
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I hate when fantasy tries to be too realistic in all the bad ways like this.
Yeah, if people had superpowers in reality, the government would absolutely brainchip us to make sure we can't use them in bad ways lol
I guess the lame depressing genre is called grimdark
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It's like in X-Men where some kid will be born with the ability to go supercritical and explode like a thermonuclear warhead if he gets angry and redditors are writing entire monologues about mutant rights being an allegory for black people
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For once I'm trying not to chudpost about lefties and someone else does my job
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HE DINDU NUFFIN, SET HIM FREE. HES JUST A NORMAL KID
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If SRD is how you derive entertainment, then I assure you that you are, in fact, the joke.
Snapshots:
/r/DragonAge:
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/r/GaymingCircleJerk:
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