China's trade surplus reached 1 trillion USD:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/12/business/china-trade-surplus.html
This means China's exports are booming and currently China is the largest trade power in the world and continuing to grow at a rapid rate far faster than the US, EU, or India.
China is taking over the South China Sea successfully:
https://telanganatoday.com/china-pushing-us-to-the-wall-in-south-china-sea-philippines
The Chinese have continued to dunk over the Philippines and take over seas claimed by them. The Chinese ships keep getting bigger in the region and other than the invasion of Taiwan plan, every other Chinese plan so far has succeeded in the South China Sea expansion.
China leads in the global energy sector:
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/01/china-driving-advanced-energy-solutions-deployments/
They have the most investments in future energy technologies and their current deployment at scale. Even the US, EU, and India are left behind in the dust compared to them as China arrives at their goals years in advance.
China has world's first sixth generation fighter jet:
This makes Chinese military tech on par with or even beyond the Americans today. China has pretty much caught up to the technological might of the most powerful military in the world.
China embraces humanoid robots and their production skyrockets:
https://www.newsweek.com/humanoid-robots-being-mass-produced-china-2004049
China has accepted the future and is mass producing humanoid robots at prices that are affordable to the middle class across the developed world and the upper middle class across the developing world. China is building the future at reasonable prices.
Battery cell prices in China plunge:
China continues to lead in building an affordable future at rates of development faster than any western economy in the world.
Chinese new tech achieves unprecedented Rare Earth material production speed:
The Chinese are even better at mining than the American or European. That makes China the leader in multiple diverse fields of production.
China vehicle exports rise 22.8%:
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-vehicle-exports-rise-228-2024-2025-01-13/
China is leading in vehicle exports growth. Vehicles are a mid to high tier technology signifying that China has claimed and won over the upper mid level tech chain and is now beginning expansion into the cutting edge tech chain.
Conclusion:
Chinese are leading in tech and are going to surpass American tech in all fields within a decade making them the leaders in global tech. China's economy is also growing faster than the economy of the US and Europe. China's exports are higher than the total exports of the US, Europe, and India. China is leading in the future of global energy production and supply. China is leading in the vehicle industry. China is leading in mining tech.
Based on all this information we can conclude that China is going to surpass the US economy in nominal terms within the next few decades and even surpass the US in per capita income by the time they reach their peak.
China's economy is going to grow 5x at least before it peaks and its per capita income is going to grow 10x at least before it peaks.
China is the future. Europe lost and is never going to be number one. The US is on its way to becoming number 2, the brain rot of the American people is getting worse not better. Drugs should have stayed banned.
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"Trade surplus" is such a fricking meme. If you ever find yourself in a situation where your opponent is happy to exchange real products for magic slips of paper that you issue, and you control the value of, you do that trade all day every day and twice on Sunday.
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maybe you're confusing china's buying of US government bonds with china's trade surplus.
trade surplus means other countries need the stuff you make more than you need the stuff they make. they don't give you their money because their money is worthless, they'd rather spend it on something else.
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That's right: The US/the West are getting real stuff they want/need and the Chinese are getting dollar-denominated currency. AFAIK most credible economists think this is a great deal.
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We've also as a result had pretty severe real asset price inflation, which is limiting economic mobility and introduces fragility into our supply chains as COVID showed. It's probably better that we pay more for clothes and luxury goods and have housing be more affordable otherwise we're in for a pretty shitty century
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Can't disagree with that. There's something to be said for localism. The US would do well to focus on quality essentials (housing, education, childcare, healthcare, especially, but also good food and long lasting, well made clothes, etc) instead of buying so much cheap Shein shit.
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This is literally 1600 spanish thinking about silver and gold. Actually over for america.
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You're almost there: Now imagine if the Spanish had bought steam engines and Alaska with pretty shiny metal.
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Only work produce value, letting people get distracted into optimising quants instead of the new iphone is why america is fricked.
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did you know that you can exchange USD for other currencies? plus, you can use money to buy stuff.
you find that a convincing argument?
sounds like someone's confusing the USD's global reserve currency status with the US' trade balance.
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The USD's unique position as a global reserve currency is part of what makes it feasible for the US to run deficits that other countries couldn't get away with.
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sure. generally a trade surplus is better than a trade deficit, but if you happen to control the world reserve currency and you also happen to be the only remaining geopolitical superpower, things are different, (at least for a certain amount of time)
but neither of those things apply to china, a trade surplus helps china become more powerful and prosperous.
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Mercantilism was abandoned centuries ago for a reason - it's fricking r-slurred. Trade is mutually beneficial, not a zero-sum game with a winner and loser.
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what religion is this?
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!macacos Brasil campeão!
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You are right. Similarly the US is a failure of an economy because they cannot even figure out mass production of shirts by hand.
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it won't be as good as a japanese pen that is folded 1000 times
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Huh? Is pro-China a MAGA position too you?
Trans lives matter
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No, he's claiming anti-gyna is
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But this thread is pro-Gyna
Trans lives matter
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You're too late,
@PeepeeButtKiss, the China-critical position has been depicted as the fat magajak! 
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I was making fun of those Americans who are in denial about Chinese supremacy and will use like ONE article about the Chinese unemployment rate or something to cope
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That 6th gen is just a flying prototype, they can't even make CPUs, don't have any operating systems and are behind on AI software and decades on AI hardware. Supercomputers are apparently just made to pass benchmarks, so they end up doing less actual useful work due to shitty tooling
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Every Chinese number is made up. Burundi actually has more real technology that works.
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This unironically 100%
!burgers
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wtf are you talking about Zhaoxin and Loongson you tard
"6th gen" and "hypermissiles" are pretty embarrassing tho
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I definitely agree
that China 
is likely going 
to keep doing better 
in a lot of these economical aspects but also the whole
is kind of a meme
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There will be a test on this material later, so make sure to rote-memorize it without understanding it (or just cheat).
Under no circumstances should you have a soul or an inner monologue.
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Fat hands typed the above. Americans have an average BMI that is obese. In America Zendaya is the face of hot American foid because she is literally a hot foid by American standards. This is why you see Americans online cooming over any foid that looks like her tits are bigger than her belly and they don't even check the face anymore.
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BIPOC BIPOC on the wall. Who is the greatest slime of them all.
Not
@Lv999_Slime_God
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What comes first. Russia taking Ukraine, china numbah one, or India superpower?
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Unironically, I think historians in 4025 will view 1600 - 2500ish as a semi-continuous sweep of global domination by Britain and her former colonies/successor empires in the US and India, sort of like how we think of Greece/Rome/Byzantium
India already has close ties to Britain, India's elite are educated in UK and US universities and mass immigration to North America will only strengthen the cultural ties between the Anglosphere.
!historychads
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DONT FALL FOR IT JIMBO dont get catfished again.
!tmz
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Yeah like you said it's the "anglosphere" not the uh…. Burgersphere?
GMT being the base time and English being the global communicator will probably seal that vibe too I'd imagine?
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The US is the base phone number (our international code is "1") and also for internet domains (.gov etc are for US, other countries have country codes).
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at least we optimized the language by removing some superfluous U's
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Oh yeah language/time compared to phone numbers/web addresses. Definitely similar significance
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who runs the global clock (GPS) again bb?
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I don't think you understand the conversation and that's okay
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don't worry bb people will always remember britain for the big empire they used to have
i mean it peaked over a hundred years ago and will probably never reach the same prominence but you know it was really cool while it lasted
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Thank you
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I'd imagine that at some point in the next 100-200 years India will become the dominant power of the 3, but India by then will seem more "American" compared to how it feels today. The Indian diaspora will reimport the most successful aspects of American culture: creativity, fairness, tolerance, optimism, and fuse them with Indian cultural virtues.
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Oh no, she's Indian
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Historians in 4025 will be aliens visiting the ruins of planet Earth. You think humanity will survive another 2000 years?
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I dont believe in much, but if theres one thing I am absolutely certain of its that Humanity will get filtered. Probably sooner rather than later.
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pure egotism.
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When did I say within my lifetime?
The amount of progress in the past 100 years (e.g. measured by per capita energy output) eclipses the full sum of the other 299,900 years by 1000%. What's is exponential?
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lol, lmao
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At some point the word "President" will be used as a title for hereditary monarchs.
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It already happens in north korea
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implessive
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My conspiracy theory is that nobody wants to handle the mass panic caused by telling us plebians that china will likely rule over us in 50 years if nothing is done about it
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There's a reason the US had banned Chinese phones and EVs.
Theyre better than anything we can produce or control the production of and they can do it better and cheaper than we can possibly imagine. That slide was the first hmmm moment for me.
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You think these companies have their own foundries and shit?
Taiwan is the king of semiconductors (specifically TSMC) and that ship is sailing away fast. Since around the start of the pandemic, there has been massive investment in Vietnam, Malaysia, the Philipines and even the US.
Point being - Chinese tech companies are slapping components together and can do so cheaply and relatively well. The problem with succeeding at this is that success brings wealth and that shit (despite our best efforts) will always be demanded by workers.
So China is not in control of the main components and it's workforce gets more expensive with each passing sale.
If China continues on like this, they're going to have to deal with some economic and social issues which it has never had to address before (peasants becoming actual people and demanding shit, upward mobility [population displacement], etc.). I think this is where their dominance will be determined - from within.
Electronics manufacturing has been moving away from China in recent years due to increased costs for workers - they're in a sweet spot now but are running into a wall and will need to adjust course.
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Some of their luxury EVs look downright sexy
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Chinese poorly reverse other countries phones and EV's. They aren't good
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Then US shouldn't have a need too ban them as they would naturally lose in the free market.
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We can't compete with slave labor but it's nice too know what you libs opinion on that is
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Slave labor is when non-American innovation.
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Okay sweety.
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same way r-slurs used to talk about japan in the 1970s: "they only know how to copy our brilliant shit" and ten years later the japanese surpasses the west in quality and innovation, while still half as expensive.
deepseek v3 is on par with state of the art LLMs by claude or openai, but 10 times more efficient. they didn't copy that, they innovated. beyond the best in the US.
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Member when Japan was going to overtake the West and become the new superpower?
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Another country doesn't have to make the same mistakes as Japan, the biggest one being its completely fricked tax system, creating all kinds of bad incentives. Probably the main factor for the asset price bubble and subsequent crash, and the resulting huge debt/gdp ratio.
Besides reforming its tax system, japan could e.g.:
Open the gates to the omnirace horde. Gaining GDP, losing public trust. Is that worth it?
Japan is still beautiful and safe. especially compared to the west.
Japanese companies could market more aggressively to the nouveau gigarich proles of the world, like western luxury brands have been doing. But they would sacrifice beauty in the process. Worth it?
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China is facing most of these same challenges. They also have a ridiculous asset crunch and empty ghost cities full of building stock that will never be filled but can't be written off without bankrupting people who invested in it. China has the additional problem that the CCP can't admit failure without endangering its own legitimacy. Democracies can "throw the bums out" without overturning the whole apple cart, autocracies not so much.
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The funniest thing is the chinks KNEW they were following in the nips' footprints but swore, swore they weren't going to make the same mistakes. lol lmao
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deepseek is on par with open source models, but Open AI iss still king ... for now
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The Atlantic-Indian Empire shall reign unchallenged for the next 1,000 years. !bharatiya
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If there's a country on Earth that can solve demographic issue its China. Honestly morality aside its not difficult, make egg and sperm donations compulsory for top %cile population and run wombs for cash program on proles, raise kids in publicly funded institutions. Parents aren't really necessary for kids to grow up, there have been kingdoms ruled for centuries by slaves taken from parents at young age and raised by state. And that was medieval state. With best genes kids are bound to outperform median handily. But all these steps can only be taken in a polity like China.
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I am not a demographer, but it's entirely possible it's already too late. Even if China had 300 million babies tomorrow, it takes time for kids to grow up. They could bring in immigrants from India or Africa, but China is even worse at integrating immigrants than Europe.
China is in a race to grow rich before it grows old, and no matter how draconian they become, the CCP can't kill the clock.
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Whoever owns the energy, military, middle income consumer products, and tech market rules the work.
China leads the energy market. China is on par with number one in the military sphere. China leads in middle income consumer products. China is number 2 in the tech market.
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China is #1 at running away and letting Sudanese civilians be murdered and r*ped by African rebels lol
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source?
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keep yourself safe you FAS addled r-slur
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By chance, are you Chinese? And do you find yourself often in a position to play 'jokes'?
And assuming those both are true, which I'm certain they are...Did you put Peepee in my coke?
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"Do remember that dishonesty and cowardice always have to be paid for. Don't imagine that for years on end you can make yourself the boot-licking propagandist of the Soviet régime, or any other régime, and then suddenly return to mental decency. Once a whore, always a whore."
― George Orwell
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/12/business/china-trade-surplus.html:
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https://telanganatoday.com/china-pushing-us-to-the-wall-in-south-china-sea-philippines:
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https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/01/china-driving-advanced-energy-solutions-deployments/:
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https://www.defensemirror.com/news/38481/China___s_Sixth_Generation_Fighter_Jet_Allegedly_Takes_First_Flight:
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https://www.newsweek.com/humanoid-robots-being-mass-produced-china-2004049:
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https://reneweconomy.com.au/mind-blowing-battery-cell-prices-plunge-in-chinas-biggest-energy-storage-auction/:
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3294183/chinas-new-technology-achieves-unprecedented-rare-earth-production-speed:
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https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-vehicle-exports-rise-228-2024-2025-01-13/:
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China's only military advantage is knowing they can tank a 1:10 KDR against us by throwing more meat into the ocean.
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