!metashit There is no rdrama award that is even comparable in its potential to be abused to the shit award. All others are either: merely cosmetic, positive, or too expensive to practically spam(like the ban, hieroglyphs and grass awards), and all have completely temporary effects. Meanwhile the shit award is extremely cheap (250 coins but practically 150 since it steals 100 DC), and can be effectively used to make sure that an user always has a negative amount of DC(therefore rendering them unable to use the lottershe, grass award and awards in general unless they paypig), and that there is always a price to pay for posting in a hole someone doesn't like for some reason, and all of this just for the low price of the monthly paypig rewards for a couple bucks a month.(with even some to spare for other posts one doesn't like, as can be seen from the Bank Statement of someone who uses all of his in-site currency for shit awards due to the reasons above)
Exhibit A: Since it's creation the majority of posts on /h/soy have been shit awarded and a lot of those that haven't are those made by an alt created specifically to shield users from them: !soyteens
Exhibit B: Seeing that I had obtained a considerable amount of coins due to a stroke of luck and carp's generosity(the MB in the screenshot is unrelated to the issue and was given to me for the creation of ping groups and transferred like that to avoid them getting spent on football betting) @Brevis-Kong, who has been personally upset at me since I opened /h/soy and asked him to stop doing this, first tested to see whether I had a deflector award on and then shit-awarded me more than 100 times. For the last two months he has constantly shit-awarded my posts and comments, always making sure he was using the right amount of them to make sure I was below the 0 DC line.
There is currently no effective way to deal with this; becoming a payping, constantly shit-awarding him back, and asking other soyteens to join in on this, although tempting and doable, is not guaranteed to make him stop. The deflector award is completely ineffective due to its deflection being a moot point as explained earlier and it being pretty expensive and only lasting 10 hours, meaning that all someone as obsessed as him has to do is just wait 10 hours. And as can be seen in an earlier /h/meta thread about this he can't be reasoned into just leaving me alone. Therefore I propose a few ways in which this issue could be fixed.
Making the Shit Award only effective on users who aren't blocking you. This would leave it pretty much unchanged, and there would still be random in good fun,shit-awardings just now with the fact that you'd have to consider the possibility of being blocked before repeatedly pulling these kinds of stunts on the same users and holes.
Making the Defclector award so cheap and long lasting that it's an effective tool in preventing this. If the Deflector lasted for, let's say, a few days and costed as much as a shit award, it would be viable and worth it to constantly use it if you know that you're going to be in this circumstance.
Making the Shit award cosmetic-only again This idea is drastic and doesn't need to be explained further but that's how it used to work previously and there is some support for it.
Adding some sort of anti-shit award that is cheap and long-lasting but only works against shit awards. This is similar to the second idea on the list but without changing the existing prices and balances of the other awards.
Add some sort of award like the Unpausable one that makes you permanently immune to shit awards
Something else. In his book on game design Tynan Sylvester makes the point that users are much better as noticing problems than in coming up with solutions to them so maybe there something that would work well that just didn't come to my mind.
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you dont know how much i want this
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REEEEEE
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i just showed the amount of deflectors i bought myself and you still decided to shit award me lmao
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I DIDNT READ WHAT YOU POSTED. I JUST WENT FOR IT.
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neighbor isn't the culture war ONLY BECAUSE OF the LGTVs??
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No, the communists started it
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is that a real tweet lmao
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It is one of xers fave sayings.
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every week, new deflector
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Suggestion:
Sexy Indian dude award: active for 24 hours and during that time if you receive a shit award you instead gain a small amount of DC
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The bank is taking my internet away due to the shit award. Pls donate to save me
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@Aevann I want you to know you did this to yourself. I warned you about nerfing awards to appease crybabies. Now you're gonna get one of these every week.
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I will say the deflector award should be 48 hours for that price point though. Or at least a third of the cost.
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why is there a black and white filter over all images recently, remove that shit
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@Aevann remove the black and white filter. I'm stuck as a vampire until November of next year which is totally unfair. I demand that you accommodate me.
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you're my favorite thrall
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because they're vampires.
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You have to let users actively harass and self-moderate content organically, or put a barrier to entry to joining the site. Moderating to a solution is how reddit became such a shitheap
Make a new account you @Scaraoschi
Given if you post the same dogshit content im sure ill end up harassing you again
built the solution already, alts make bans entirely useless and 99% of all the other awards
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You specifically looked through my Bank Statement in order to find an alt of mine and shit awarded that too
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Lol i forgot i did that, darn im good
Dont send coins to your alt this time bby
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LOL
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None of you Nancies told me this sour candy has a deflector up. Thanks for NOTHING, gays!!!!!!!!!!!
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We desperately need a !troublemakers ping group
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darn, if only someone could make one or something
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My wealth and stinginess has been called out!
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I like shit awards but I think they should be exempt from your award discounts.
At full price it's fair, both parties lose 150 coins. But when you factor in discounts it becomes unbalanced towards the person giving the award.
The higher your discount percentage is, the more unbalanced it becomes. If you somehow managed get a discount percentage of 50% or more you'd be able to bankrupt people without losing a single coin yourself.
!commenters thoughts on making discounts not apply to shit awards?
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I think discounts should apply just so you are angrey :)
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I don't care either way, I used this trick myself to get @CallyMcCool -1k into bankruptcy despite having less DC than him.
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Discounts not applying would only be a mild improvement for this situation, there is still no way to deal with someone who has a personal vendetta against you using xeir monthly MB to easily shit-award you into negative balance, at little cost.
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max discount is 45% in sourcecode
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i kinda like it
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I agree with this, muters and blockers should be punished
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make the shit award only steal from people who are muting or blocking you instead
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Wtf are deflector awards time-based? I thought they were single-use
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Time-based is fun, though, when I chud three people at once.
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if you're already at negative balance a cheap deflector award won't do anything
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@Aevann making it not effective against muter/blocker type people does seem like a pretty good idea imo tbqhwy
also if one user is being a total peepee like this to another user, maybe give them some kind of eyerape theme that keeps changing back if they shit award teh victim? Or arbitrarily steal all their coin so they cant do it for a while?
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oh oh oh I know !jannies get together and set the rate, but after someone gives like 25 or 50 shit awards make it a LOT more expensive, like 1000 or 2000 per award
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IMO at the very least it shouldn't be possible to get negative balance.
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REEEEEEE
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just don't post sht
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Seems to be working as intended
Imagine giving a shit about Internet points
!slots100
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Banned users are permitted to appeal their bans.
When they do so, they must propose and defend a thesis that they are able and willing to participate in good faith, and that they regret the errors they made which led to the ban.
This space is valuable. Our time and efforts and skills as moderators are valuable. The mission of this subreddit is valuable.
Wasting our time / resources on purpose is bad faith engagement. Demanding labour from us which we are not volunteering to provide, is theft. Derailing and hijacking this subreddit is impermissible.
One -- just one -- of our moderator staff banned more than 300 users in the past 30 days. That alone is still less than 1% of all the moderation activity on this subreddit. We are constantly deluged by trolls and bigots seeking to stop this subreddit, harass us into silence, and sabotage the point of this subreddit.
We don't put up with it.
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