Not even 1/3 of the Republicans in the House have cosponsored it. Yet, it would need 2/3 of the entire House and then 2/3 of the entire Senate and then 3/4 of all the States to support in order to actually pass. This isn't a serious bill for the minority of House Republicans pushing it, it's just virtue signaling for them, and neither is it a serious bill for the Democrats who are fund raising off of it, it's just fear mongering for them. So, no, it's not going to hurt Republicans because the majority of them aren't supporting it and no one will remember it during the midterms.
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they didn't run on taking away abortions, trump isn't even against abortions, that's only a small fraction of republican voters. starting from the extreme position if you're on the more powerful side of the negotiating table is a good tactic, trump has done this 1000 times in his life.
the end result will be a federal abortion law, that limits it to 14 weeks or so for frivolous abortions, and generous exceptions for serious medical reasons.
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the specific bill doesn't matter. if there a federal abortion law ends up getting passed it's gonna be a reasonable compromise. if it happens under trump the compromise will be slightly more strict than what would have been under harris (assuming harris had any interest in passing a federal law).
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you seriously can't tell that this is a negotiation tactic? dems will demand a more pro-choice-y law, they'll start negotiating and (after the dems have made enough concessions on other topics) they'll meet somewhere that is as close as possible to what the rightmost 70% of the country find acceptable. the republicans are negotiating from a position of strength, the more extreme their initial demand, the more concessions they can get from the dems.
dems should have passed a federal law on abortion five decades ago, for five decades every legal expert has been telling them that roe v wade was a house of cards. they had plenty opportunties to do so, but they didn't do it because then single issue abortion voters wouldn't have a reason to vote blue no matter who anymore.
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pushing this shit is a surefire way for chuds to get absolutely dunked in elections.
right now they've got a good thing going with poorly educated people thinking every awful thing they stand for isn't true.
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Not even 1/3 of the Republicans in the House have cosponsored it. Yet, it would need 2/3 of the entire House and then 2/3 of the entire Senate and then 3/4 of all the States to support in order to actually pass. This isn't a serious bill for the minority of House Republicans pushing it, it's just virtue signaling for them, and neither is it a serious bill for the Democrats who are fund raising off of it, it's just fear mongering for them. So, no, it's not going to hurt Republicans because the majority of them aren't supporting it and no one will remember it during the midterms.
Edit: Oh, and like someone else said, they do this performative shit all the time. Here's one from 2023: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/464/text
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by that logic Drumpf/repubs should have lost in 24 bc scotus got rid of roe v wade
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no, because they convinced poorly educated people it was a state issue.
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Blumpf convinced them he was just de-federalozing the issue and not being heavy handed moral police. Which was smart. Immediately doing this isn't.
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ah, bc tricking the poorly educated only works the first time
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It's why they got fricked in 2022 bb
This is absolutely a losing issue for them just as immigration is a losing issue for dems.
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I hear you but they ran on taking away abortions and they won.
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no they didn't lmao, they did absolutely everything they could do to pretend it was a state issue.
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Everyone else read between the lines.
Do you really think their are anti abortion people that only want the states to decide not the federal government?
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they didn't run on taking away abortions, trump isn't even against abortions, that's only a small fraction of republican voters. starting from the extreme position if you're on the more powerful side of the negotiating table is a good tactic, trump has done this 1000 times in his life.
the end result will be a federal abortion law, that limits it to 14 weeks or so for frivolous abortions, and generous exceptions for serious medical reasons.
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The end result will be this bill dying in committiee
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the specific bill doesn't matter. if there a federal abortion law ends up getting passed it's gonna be a reasonable compromise. if it happens under trump the compromise will be slightly more strict than what would have been under harris (assuming harris had any interest in passing a federal law).
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you seriously can't tell that this is a negotiation tactic? dems will demand a more pro-choice-y law, they'll start negotiating and (after the dems have made enough concessions on other topics) they'll meet somewhere that is as close as possible to what the rightmost 70% of the country find acceptable. the republicans are negotiating from a position of strength, the more extreme their initial demand, the more concessions they can get from the dems.
dems should have passed a federal law on abortion five decades ago, for five decades every legal expert has been telling them that roe v wade was a house of cards. they had plenty opportunties to do so, but they didn't do it because then single issue abortion voters wouldn't have a reason to vote blue no matter who anymore.
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