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asshole there/then :marseyshark:  1d ago (thestar.com) 348 thread views #339747 earned 232 coins from votes

First military :marseyplanecrash: flight to send migrants :marseypregunta: to Guantanamo Bay is set to depart, official :marseycia: says

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/united-states/first-military-flight-to-send-migrants-to-guantanamo-bay-is-set-to-depart-official-says/article_a969b2d4-ee60-5486-8149-b11c0d478c2b.html

>foreign criminals going to a military prison is heckon' le fascism :soycry:

https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1ihp5of/military_flights_carrying_detained_migrants_to/

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Undocumented immigrants are very specifically not criminals

Then again, iirc nobody in Gitmo is charged in the justice system, so technically this is consistent.

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Undocumented immigrants are very specifically not criminals

https://media.tenor.com/uIorgaD4_cUAAAAx/fake-news-point.webp

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The closest crime is human trafficking and none of these people are being charged with that :marseysurejan:

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entering the country illegally is a federal crime that is generally charged as a misdemeanor. Also the peoppe Drunpf is sending to gitmo comitted crimes above and beyond that

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

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I don't get it :marseysad:

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!familyman

:#marseywheeze:

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How can you say such hurtful things?

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It's not "generally charged as a misdemeanor" it is a misdemeanor, punishable by at most six months in jail. It has the same severity as impersonating a member of the 4-H Club. Only on subsequent charges after a first conviction can it be prosecuted for a felony. It's "generally" not charged at all unless they're tacking it on to another crime because they don't need a conviction to deport you.

I think putting people in Gitmo for misdemeanors is kind of skeevy, but the argument probably is that they're just holding them until they process asylum claims or whatever which I guess is fine.

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that depends on if its the first offense

Illegal Entry"/8 U.S.C. § 1325 makes it a crime to unlawfully enter the United States. It applies to people who do not enter with proper inspection at a port of entry, such as those who enter between ports of entry, avoid examination or inspection, or who make false statements while entering or attempting to enter. A first offense is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine, up to six months in prison, or both.

"Illegal Re-Entry"/8 U.S.C. § 1326 makes it a crime to unlawfully reenter, attempt to unlawfully reenter, or to be found in the United States after having been deported, ordered removed, or denied admission. This crime is punishable as a felony with a maximum sentence of two years in prison. Higher penalties apply if the person was previously removed after having been convicted of certain crimes: up to 10 years for a single felony conviction (other than an aggravated felony conviction) or three misdemeanor convictions involving drugs or crimes against a person, and up to 20 years for an aggravated felony conviction.

also the illegals going to gitmo comitted crimes beyond simply entering illegally. They dont have enough space to just send anyone there so people who are simply "undocumented" are safe from gitmo and will probably be sent to el salvador if not their country of origin.

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:#marseybrainletclapping:

Only on subsequent charges after a first conviction can it be prosecuted for a felony.

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either way, it is a crime that is generally punished as a misdemeanor and can be upped to a felony if youre a repeat offender. Youre by far the worse semantics debater ive ever seen.

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Your phrasing implies judicial discretion.

It's wrong anyways. It's generally punished as a civil tort because it expedites the deportation process. Almost nobody is prosecuted unless in conjunction with another crime.

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That's crossing the border illegally not being in the US without status. Not all people without status crossed the border illegally (many had prior legal status) and they would need specific evidence of them crossing the border to charge them.

If someone had prior legal status and was convicted of anything that was a crime of moral turpitude (basically anything that is not a simple violation) their status is at risk. Any sort of felony conviction will result in near immediate revocation of a visa.

Being in the US without status is specifically not a crime because it makes it harder to deport people. If its criminal they have a constitutional right to a free lawyer, have to have the possibility of bond etc.

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Good to know :marseyreading:

Though is being in the country without status still technically breaking the law? Also can statute of limitations be applied to illegally crossing the border? :marseybeanquestion:

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It is not breaking the law. If it was illegal then constitutional protections for criminals would apply, they get to apply a much weaker standard so they can hold them indefinitely.

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Undocumented immigrants are very specifically not criminals

I mean by a technical definition they are as they broke immigration and customs laws by arriving or staying in the country without valid residency, permit, visa or citizenship, though saying they are criminal is dishonest so :marseyshrug:

Then again, iirc nobody in Gitmo is charged in the justice system, so technically this is consistent.

(Almost) everyone in Gitmo deserves it or deserved it, stop being a chud: :!marseyindignant:

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Undocumented immigrants are very specifically not criminals

Isn't this just pointless semantics?

Shouldn't breaking 'the rules' incur some kind of penalty? Otherwise, why even have rules if all they do is make fools out of the people who actually respect them?

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>Shouldn't breaking 'the rules' incur some kind of penalty?

Yes, it should! @BIGBILLYKONGDONG has STILL not judged the fanfiction contest and for this reason he should be waterboarded at Gitmo for the rest of his natural life.

Actions must carry consequences.

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Please don't spread hate against carp :marseysad:

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There is a specific process in criminal justice and the system around undocumented immigrants is intentionally built to circumvent it for expediency and cost at scale

It's different because it's different :marseymad:

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Wouldn't that mean they're trying to bypass constitutional rights? :marseygasp:

Why would they do that? :marseysad:

@YappingCat ping lawyers please :marseybegging:

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This is why fascism is so appealling. It at least promises not to be a bureaucratic nightmare.

Just bake all your problems in the oven at 800ºC and think about what you'll do with all that sweet Lebensraum.

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@Konjjer thoughts? :marseyreading:

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Wdym bait? :marseysad:

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Undocumented immigrants are very specifically criminals

8 U.S.C. § 1325

But they don't have to go to ISIS Island, that's just chest-thumping

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The language seems to imply the crime is in improper entry, not improper staying.

Burden of proof + dreamers makes that untenable as a blanket prosecution

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people are charged/prosecuted all the time for improper entry

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738703114OkaS4V1OIVMc1A.webp

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-prosecutions

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Why does it look like paint me like one of your French girls? :marseyshook:

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It's this weird situation where libs claim illegal immigrants haven't broken any laws because being here illegally isn't technically illegal. Strictly speaking though there are only two ways for you to wind up in the US without authorization, you either (a) illegally crossed a border or (b) were legally let in ie on a visa, but overstayed or otherwise violated the terms of your visa.

Both (a) and (b) are crimes but since somebody here illegally could have committed either of them we can't pin either crime to them, or some such nonsense.

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Butt youd think you could prove that it mustve been either A or B based on whether they ever had a visa.

anyway, it clearly can be prosecuted as thousands are charged and prosecuted for it every year tho that number greatly decreased u der :marseybiden:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738703048Akk9Fp2bbHsHpw.webp

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-prosecutions

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>illegal reentry

isn't this when they tell you to frick off for X years and you show up again? Are visa overstays even on that chart?

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Physical presence in the United States without proper authorization is a civil violation, rather than a criminal offense. This means that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can place a person in removal (deportation) proceedings and can require payment of a fine, but the federal government cannot charge the person with a criminal offense unless they have previously been ordered deported and reentered in violation of that deportation order. Likewise, a person who enters the United States on a valid visa and stays longer than permitted may be put in removal proceedings but cannot face federal criminal charges based solely on this civil infraction. Those who enter or reenter the United States without permission, however, can face criminal charges.

so overstaying isnt a crime, butt can result in a removal/deportation proceeding. I assume failing to comply with a deportation order after that could be charged with violating a court order which could redult in criminal charges/punishment.

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No human being is illegal, sweaty. :marseywholesome: American gangbangers, for example, are very cool and very legal.

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it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy anyway

if you xenophobiamaxx and don't let anybody in, then all immigration is technically illegal, allowing whoever is in charge to sperg out and use it as a political distraction while they invent a new way to disenfranchise working class Americans

the drugs entering the border is def a problem, I travel a shitty road on the way to work and all the homeless people look like Fallout ghouls because they're all fented up on cheap shit

I don't think that's the result of immigration because typically smugglers go back and forth rather than stay, so target those dudes and put them on an island

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I assume chuds have already upgraded their programming from "this will never happen" to "its a good thing"?

!nonchuds

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when did chuds say this wouldnt happen? What chuds would oppose this?

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""centrists"" who said calling trump a fascist was heccin dangerous.

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how is him sending foreign criminals to a military prison fascist?

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https://media.tenor.com/9PFSsHe9rdYAAAAx/vince-mcmahon-excited.webp it's non-stop, 24/7, wall-to-wall bangers from the Trump Administration so far.

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I can't imagine what it's like watching this while being a bong :marseyxd:

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So long as you've got your social policy longing permit we'll have no problem here mate :marseybong:

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Red Hats: No Regrets Blowing Up Undersea Exotic Dome; "If we find more domes, we'll annihilate them"

https://realrawnews.com/2025/02/red-hats-no-regrets-blowing-up-undersea-exotic-dome-if-we-find-more-domes-well-annihilate-them/

A Red Hat speaking for Colonel Kurtz told Real Raw News Sunday that the splinter cell does not regret blowing up an "exotic technology" undersea dome off the coast of Maine, even though the resultant explosion spawned an earthquake and killed 12 men Kurtz had tasked with conducting the operation.

After reading comments on the article, RRN reached out to the source, as we wanted to know whether Kurtz's troops died on a suicide mission and if Kurtz had considered the ramifications of tackling a technology beyond his comprehension. We asked questions such as, "What if leaked radiation? What if people were inside? What if it caused a global catastrophe? What if, on the outside chance, otherworldly entities put it there? What if it was a secret government project Kurtz had no business meddling with?"

The source was dismissive. He would neither confirm nor deny the suicide mission theory but said, "Eventually, their sacrifice will be recorded in the annals of history. They'll go down as heroes. They died with purpose, honorably, getting rid of something that shouldn't have been there. Whatever it was, it invaded one diver's mind, which was reason enough."

As to whether it might have been occupied, he added, "Then they should've come out and said hello or sent a signal. It was a seamless dome fastened somehow to the seafloor. Whoever the heck put it there sure had the tech to also have cameras to see the divers."

We asked if the flickering lights seen by the divers could've been a means of communication, sort of how the extraterrestrials in Close Encounters of the Third Kind (which, to this day, many ufologists believe fictionalized an actual encounter at Devil's Tower) attempted to communicate with humans, mainly since a low-frequency hum had emanated from the hemispherical structure.

"Remotely possible but hardly plausible," he replied. "The Deep State has tech that'll blow your mind—40, 50, 60 years ahead of anything published. The ET shit was invented by the Deep State to hide their own dark projects. We believe the colored lights and the humming noise were evil but not ET evil. Advanced tech doesn't mean ETs. Sure, its source of power was exotic, had to be, but evil people are very creative."

Then he dropped a bombshell. He said Kurtz has reason to believe similar domes might lie on the ocean floor across the five oceans—speculative information, apparently, given to him by the former USGS geologist who disclosed the location of the dome near York Harbor.

"Why would there be only one?" our source asked. "The one we destroyed, I'm sure, had a limited sphere of evil influence. If they're out there, we must find and destroy them, for all mankind. We now know these things aren't invulnerable, and since they're a source of evil, it's our job to stop them."

Asked whether Kurtz had consulted Gen. Smith or President Trump before sending divers to their doom, he said, "Kurtz is his own council. Sure, we help the White Hats when needed, but while they're concerned with arresting FBI and FEMA here and there, we're thinking about humanity. Col. Kurtz's concerns are global."

"If we find more domes, we'll annihilate them," he said in closing.

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Gitmo is small as frick lol. They already held illegals there picked up at sea.

This is optics, they put :marseytrain2:s de AAAckgua there instead of Country jail and then repatriate them but it sounds bad so they stop coming.

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A little violence goes a long way. If you think you might end up in gitmo with its reputation, would you still chance coming to America?

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There is no fate worse than not living in America, let's be real.

If America had an all-comers-welcome colony with even the slightest sliver of American citizenship, entire nations would depopulate overnight to be a literal legal underclass for American corporations and work for US Dollars

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I'm pretty sure people don't make decisions that way. It's like, we have a death penalty but people don't make decisions to not commit a crime because of the potential punishment. I consider the death penalty more of a garbage disposal for people that shouldn't be allowed freedom and are too expensive to house and feed.

If we want to round up the illegals and put them on a black site island prison, that's a super expensive way to deal with immigration issues

I think we should make a reality TV show like Fear Factor and make them eat the bugs and make money

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Mexicans put bugs in their candy tho

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738704406Gxou2lxjwRhaew.webp

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If you think your wife and kids could end up in gitmo, would you not gun down a few ICE agents before getting turned in?

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Its the American way

!fedposters one of us

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even then, the illegals going to gitmo didnt simply enter illegally, they straigjt up comitted serious crimes either in the US or abroad

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The news aint gonna do nuance anywhere you're likely to see it. Itll be on paragraph 6

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even commenters in this thread are convinced that people with misdemeanors will be sent there. :marseyitsallsotiresome:

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Could you try not being a disney adult and doing something with your life?

"I mean, it's so confusing, isn't it? So much going wrong, so much to say, and all of it happening so quickly. The pace of repression outstrips our ability to understand it, and that is the real trick of the Imperial thought machine - it's easier to hide behind forty atrocities than a single incident."

-Nemik, Andor(2022)

https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1ihp5of/comment/maze2l0/?context=8

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N-n-no, how can chuds pervert our heckin' wholesome extrajudicial torture camp??? :soycry:

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Snapshots:

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https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1ihp5of/military_flights_carrying_detained_migrants_to/:

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