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Breakthrough in nuclear fusion energy announced :marseynukegoggles:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63950962

A major breakthrough has been announced by US scientists in the race to recreate nuclear fusion.

Physicists have pursued the technology for decades as it promises a potential source of near-limitless clean energy.

On Tuesday researchers confirmed they have overcome a major barrier - producing more energy from a fusion experiment than was put in.

But experts say there is still some way to go before fusion powers homes.

The experiment took place at the National Ignition Facility at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) in California.

Nuclear fusion is described as the "holy grail" of energy production. It is the process that powers the Sun and other stars.

It works by taking pairs of light atoms and forcing them together - this "fusion" releases a lot of energy.

It is the opposite of nuclear fission, where heavy atoms are split apart. Fission is the technology currently used in nuclear power stations, but the process also produces a lot of waste that continues to give out radiation for a long time. It can be dangerous and must be stored safely.

Nuclear fusion produces far more energy, and only small amounts of short-lived radioactive waste. And importantly, the process produces no greenhouse gas emissions and therefore does not contribute to climate change.

But one of the challenges is that forcing and keeping the elements together in fusion requires very large amounts of temperature and pressure. Until now, no experiment has managed to produce more energy than the amount put in to make it work.

The National Ignition Facility in California is a $3.5bn (£2.85bn) experiment.

It puts a tiny amount of hydrogen into a capsule the size of a peppercorn.

Then a powerful 192-beam laser is used to heat and compress the hydrogen fuel.

The laser is so strong it can heat the capsule to 100 million degrees Celsius - hotter than the centre of the Sun, and compress it to more than 100 billion times that of Earth's atmosphere.

Under these forces the capsule begins to implode on itself, forcing the hydrogen atoms to fuse and release energy.

On announcing the breakthrough Dr. Marvin Adams deputy administrator for defense programs at the US National Nuclear Security Administration said that the laboratory's lasers had input 2.05 megajoules (MJ) of energy to the target, which had then produced 3.15 MJ of fusion energy output.

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Dr Melanie Windridge, CEO of Fusion Energy Insights, told the BBC: "Fusion has been exciting scientists since they first figured out what was causing the Sun to shine. These results today really put us on the path to the commercialization of the technology."

Prof Jeremy P. Chittenden, professor of plasma physics and co-director of the Centre for Inertial Fusion Studies at Imperial College London called it "a true breakthrough moment" which proves 'the 'holy grail' of fusion, can indeed be achieved".

This has been the sentiment echoed by physicists globally, who praised the work of the international science community.

Prof Gianluca Gregori, Professor of Physics at the University of Oxford said: "Today's success rests upon the work done by many scientists in the US, UK and around the world. With ignition now achieved, not only fusion energy is unlocked, but also a door is opening to new science."

On the question of how long before we could see fusion being used in power stations, LLNL Director Dr. Kim Budil said there were still significant hurdles but that: "with concerted efforts and investment, a few decades of research on the underlying technologies could put us in a position to build a power plant".

This is progress from when scientists used to say 50 - 60 years in answer to that question.

One of the main hurdles is getting cost down and scaling up the energy output.

The experiment was only able to produce enough energy to boil about 15-20 kettles and required billions of dollars of investment. And although the experiment got more energy out than the laser put in, this did not include the energy needed to make the lasers work - which was far greater that the amount of energy the hydrogen produced.

The amount of energy they've generated in this experiment is tiny - just enough to boil a few kettles. But what it represents is huge for the scientists who've spent so long working on this technology - and for all of us.

The promise of a fusion-powered future is one step closer. But - and there always is a but with these breakthroughs - there's still a long way to go before this becomes a reality.

This experiment shows that the science works. Now it needs to be repeated, perfected, and the amount of energy it generates will have to be significantly boosted.

This is before scientists can even think about scaling the process up.

The other issue is the cost - this experiment has cost billions of dollars - fusion does not come cheap.

But the promise of a source of clean energy will certainly be a big incentive for overcoming these challenges.

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I can't wait for this to become viable so everyone can shut the frick up about wind turbines and solar and coal and whatever the frick. Gimme that clean fusion energy.

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Is there really any argument against this sort of thing?

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Well first and foremost they didn't actually produce more power than they put in used. What they neglect to tell you is that figure is the output of the laser and not the input, which is substantially higher. Newer lasers will be more efficient, but still nowhere near efficient enough to make that statement true. Still a big breakthrough, but it is in no way a viable technology at this point. This is very much a watch this go nowhere in 50 years kind of thing.

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LLNL’s experiment surpassed the fusion threshold by delivering 2.05 megajoules (MJ) of energy to the target, resulting in 3.15 MJ of fusion energy output, demonstrating for the first time a most fundamental science basis for inertial fusion energy (IFE).

https://www.llnl.gov/news/national-ignition-facility-achieves-fusion-ignition

By "deliver," they mean only that electricity which went into the laser? So what aren't the counting? The rest of the building with it's consumption of 1.05 MJ for this brief experiment?

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And what about the energy spent to grow the scientists food???

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No. By "delivered energy" they mean the power produced by the laser delivered to the hydrogen (or whatever it was). The power required to actually run the laser was about 100x's higher. Still promising results, but in no form or fashion even remotely close to being commercially viable.

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Interesting. How do you know? :marseybegging:

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Thanks.

Michael Campbell, director of the LLE in Rochester, says NIF’s “wall-plug” efficiency—the amount of energy drawn from the grid that is deposited on the fusion fuel—is about 0.5%.

Can't stand redditor's complete inability to quote things.

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Lmfao, no wonder this is such non-news.

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It literally says so in the article

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By "deliver" they mean the output of the lasers -- not the actual power used to power the lasers. The conversion of electricity to LAZAR BEAMZ has an efficiency of like 1%. This is still a first, but actual self-powered reactors are a long way off. LIke 2050 at best

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Yes, nuclear energy has been adopted as a dogwhistle for the far right.

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Only Fusion can reestablish Hyperborea

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Whether it will actually work

People said the same thing about Nuclear back in the 60's and look where we are now

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look where we are now

First world countries shutting down reactors to appease globalist ghouls?

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It is stupefying watching rightoids and climate change activists alike cheer when a nuclear plant is shut down

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Rightoids hate nuclear?

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Rightoids still shill hard for Johnny Coalminer, not to mention running a nuclear power plant is a white collar job, so they're not a fan of it

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No one shills for coal anymore bruh. Maybe natural gas but that’s it

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There are some that do but it's because their lives literally still depend on coal.

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No, rightoid twitter is sneeding harder about nuclear shutdowns than anyone, the guy you replied to is just r-slurred.

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Against fusion generally? No. It's the greatest energy source we could possibly harness and the investment will eventually be worth it.

This "breakthrough" isn't something to get your hopes up over though. This is a minor incremental improvement on fusion tech at best. Fission is actually practical for electricity production and will remain the best energy-dense power source for the foreseeable future.

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I can't wait for this to become viable

It will become viable just in time to power your great grandkids bug grinder and power their hour a day of allotted artificial pod light.

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Iirc fusion bombs are triggered by a smaller fission bomb. Obviously power generation is different. But it goes to show the immense amount of energy required. This is more /r/futurology bullshit that is always 10 years away.

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:#marseysal2:

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It's about as far as landing on Mars. Hope it happens in our lifetimes.

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Just give us more funding in 20 years we will do the same experiment again and publish the same results :marseymerchant:

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Yeah, except they just got positive returns...

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They literally did not. The actual amount of power they used was 100x's higher than what they produced. The lower energy figure they are reporting was the amount of power produced by the laser not the amount consumed. This is interesting only in the theoretical sense. This is not commercially viable technology.

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How much power did I use to slam your mother?

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My mother is a :marseychonkerfoid: have some fricking standards. :marseypuke:

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Slam whale holy grail

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Ecologists are already against it.

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I just want a heated drive way so I don't have to clear ice anymore

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