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I really can't stand this meme where normal Republicans pretend Trump and Trumpism are some kind of aberration or made the party what it is today, when Trump was just what the GOP had been at the local level since the 1990s, taken to the national stage.

There's nothing to take the party back to - it's finally rotted all the way to the core and the establishment has lost control.

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There's an argument that moderate Republicans flocked to the Democrat primaries after 2016, which partly explains why the GOP went more batshit in the short term and the righter-wing Democrats quashed the Sanders wave that seemed ascendant in 2016.

(also why the Dems started doing shit like shilling George Bush and McCain)

Now that Blumpf's gone, it would imply that they're returning/have returned and the Dems could go more left again, while the Reps moderate a bit.

Who tf knows though

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There's data supporting many moderate Republicans did in fact flock to the Democratic primary in 2016, but it also says they were primarily never-Clinton voters and supporting Sanders over Clinton.

Which explains why Bernie was so much stronger then.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-bernie-sanders-lost/

Sanders and his aides also made new mistakes in 2020. There were some clear indications that some of Sanders’s success in 2016 — among white voters without college degrees, in particular — had more to do with anti-Clinton sentiment than strong support for Sanders. But the senator’s advisers seemed to think that Sanders had a unique appeal to white working-class voters that would simply continue in 2020. So the Sanders campaign decided to invest heavily in the March 10 primary in Michigan, a state packed with white voters without a college degree. Biden not only won Michigan easily, but he won overall among white voters without a college degree (and pretty comfortably).

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I don't think Bernie-style progressives or AOC-style progressives are viable outside of select areas.

They're correct when they say things like healthcare reform and increased wages are popular - but they also don't understand Americans are fairly dumb people and incredibly vulnerable to economic propaganda.

Your run-of-the-mill politically engaged American probably supports healthcare reform but also thinks it's "too expensive" even if the current system costs more.

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some kind of aberration or made the party what it is today

Those are opposite, and they're opinions not memes you fricking r-slur

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They arne't opposites. The argument you see moderate Republicans make is that Trump was an aberration and converted the party to what it currently is.

You aren't so good with words are you?

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An aberration is not something that changes or makes something into what it is today. It is temporary, small, unusual, not reflective of something's nature/character. The word you're looking for is departure.

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How can you not comprehend what is being said to you.

The argument is Trump is an aberration, a departure from the character of the Republican party, that has then converted the Republican party to what it currently is.

Like idk if this is a gaslamp attempt or what, I used the word correctly.

This is the definition of aberration:

a departure from what is normal, usual, or expected, typically one that is unwelcome.

The argument is the "real Republican party" can take it back from Trump, which is dumb because Trump is not an aberration.

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That makes sense, aberration and made the party what it is are still opposites. Your definition of aberration doesn't capture the full meaning of the word. You're a midwit that used a big word you don't fully understand.

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I used the word completely correctly, you know that, this is your attempt to backpedal out of the dunking that just happened to you.

My use of the word was exactly correct - the idea is Trump is an aberration from Republican values, and the Real GOP can totally take it back.

My point is Trump was not an aberration (not a departure from Republican values) so their view is incorrect.

Maybe I can word this in a way a poorly educated person (you) can understand. The idea is the aberration of Trump captured the party and put in place Trumpism.

https://nytimes.com/2020/10/30/opinion/trump-presidents-history.html

https://auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2021/01/08/anne-salmond-trump-no-aberration.html

https://japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/02/07/commentary/world-commentary/uncomfortable-truth-trump-not-aberration/

https://theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/12/donald-trump-us-joe-biden

I can keep going if you want, but this should be enough to prove my use of the word was fine and you're just r-slurred.

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You used it incorrectly by equating it with "made the party what it is" an aberration cannot make something what it is, that is the opposite of an aberration is

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Again, you have no idea what the word means. An aberration can be a deviation from the norm and have profound impacts on a climate or environment.

And again, I used it correctly because clearly the Republican establishment believes him to an aberration and Trumpism to be an aberration.

Stop embarrassing yourself and walk away. The Republican establishment clearly believes his movement within the party to be reversible and nothing more than a deviation.

My point is the current party is not a deviation and more in line with the real republican party.

Is English not your first language?

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