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Koreans are starting to use English names in the office because it's easier than just speaking their own language

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2023-08-26/why/WHY-Why-do-Koreans-create-new-identity-at-work-with-an-English-name/1855064

TLDR: Korean has all kinds of really convoluted rules about how to be respectful to your superiors. (It's bad enough that it's what made me give up on learning it.) One of them is that you can't call them by their name. Normally you would use a job title or some term of respect.

So who is your superior? It's not just your boss, it can be as petty as them being a few years older than you. So there's a major pain in the butt when two people meet where you have to subtly work out between you who whether you're equals or one of you is on a slightly higher level.

So in order to skip that bullshit and have a culture that's less obsessed with seniority and age, the hip new startup companies are having their employees pick English names and use those instead. Tbqh I suspect it's more because they think being Vivian or Bradley is cooler.

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English is the international language of success, and has been since the fall of Spanish.

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One day it's gonna be a bit of trivia that it originated in a land once called "England"

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Yoooo, I heard a rumour that once North Indian Albion was called “England” can you believe this shit ? Just wow

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>Wait what? No way, there was a place named after the language? That's crazy bro!

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wrong :marseyrulebritannia:

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Did you know that English originally came from the Caliphate in Juzur Biritania? Crazy, right?

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French on the other hand...

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good orator

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No shit, I was laughing with him, not at him!

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Millennial refers to people born between 1980 and 1995. Generation Z are those born between 1997 and 2012.

People born in 1996:

:#marseycryinggenocide:

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Zilleanials.

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Truly the lost generation.

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I remember working at this place where this convoluted naming scheme was a huge deal and people would get offended if I referred to them "incorrectly". At some point I stopped referring to anyone at all and just said "uh " then spoke. Did not last long, it's fricking work man I don't even care enough about your life to disrespect you

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This is why I stand with the norks.

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This idea started with Korean Air in the 90s. They had an unusually high number of accidents and it was determined that their junior officers would rather risk flying into the ground than break cultural hierarchy.

An outside consultant came in and made English mandatory for Korean pilots while flying

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Yeah and they also had the problem in that generation that whatever your rank in the military had been, that stuck with you for the rest of your life. So someone less competent might be in charge because of their rank 20 years earlier.

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Source? Not doubting you, just want more info.

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I originally read it in Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers. If you can stomach a few r-slurred conclusions, the book is pretty neat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_801#Investigation_and_probable_cause

The NTSB was critical of the flight crew's monitoring of the approach, and even more critical of why the first officer and flight engineer did not challenge the captain for his errors. Even before the accident, Korean Air's crew resource management program was already attempting to promote a free atmosphere between the flight crew, requiring the first officer and flight engineer to challenge the captain if they felt concerned. The flight crew only began to challenge the captain six seconds before impact, though, when the first officer urged the captain to make a missed approach. According to the cockpit voice recorder, the flight crew suggested to the captain that he had made a mistake, but did not explicitly warn him. The flight crew had the opportunity to be more aggressive in its challenge and the first officer even had the opportunity to take over control of the aircraft and execute a missed approach himself, which would have prevented the accident, but he did not do this.

PDF of the cockpit voice recorder for Korean Air Flight 801

To summarize, there is an instrument on runways called a glide slope that sends a signal to help planes land. Guam's runway's glide slope is not working (landing is still possible, just harder) and the captain mentions this in his descent briefing. The captain is extremely tired and repeatedly talks about wanting to go to bed and sleeping arrangements. They begin their descent at night in heavy rain. Visibility is so bad that the captain mentally defaults to using the glide slope, despite already "knowing" the reading is wrong. The first officer and flight engineer are both completely aware of these issues and the best protests they can manage are, "Wow, it's very rainy tonight" and "Is the glide slope working?"

The captain ignores his snivelling underlings and crashes into a hill 3 miles short of the runway.

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You can only have so much combo of kim something

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Yeah, this has to be a real problem. The majority of the population are named Kim, Lee, or Park. The given has to be two syllables long and they have a lot fewer consonants.

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If you meet a chinaman in the wild, chances are he'll have chosen an English name to better adapt to the local culture.

Meanwhile, Indians introduce themselves "hello I'm Narasimhachinnaswami" and expect you to remember that.

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They are all named like Prakash or Ramcharran

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Funny enough Korean is a super easy language to learn and speak.

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Maybe to learn and write but I know I'll never be able to speak and be understood beyond "대박!" Ajummas love it when you say that.

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>Ajummas love it when you say that.

:marseynotes2:

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Sweet, that means all the Korean names are up for grabs :marseytroublemaker:

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Everybody in China's done this for years and we ditched all that bowing and stuff in 1911. I went to school with a kid called Rambo. Like, all the teachers called him it and everything.

My name sounds like an English name so I never bothered.

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Based utilitarian Chinks.

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I wish all of them did this. I was dealing with two korean :marseyjoseon: dudes who sounded exactly the same and both had unpronouncable names and it was impossible :marseyimpossibru: to talk to them because I couldn't tell them apart.

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:#marseyrubberhosetnt:

Snapshots:

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Gooks

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just go with "Hey, Cute twink!"

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There isn't an F sound in Korean.

:marseyhmmhips:

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they don't have fish, or famers? weird.

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They only have pishuh and fahmuhuh.

I love them to death but to work with them effectively you need experience with their accent and lots of hand gestures.

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I love them to death to work

*I love to work them to death

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I spell everything right 99% of the time. You try this shit on me, I am going to gatekeep your butt so hard you'll wish you were back in Ms. Smith's English class

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