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Wait, so there is no actual evidence humans are responsible? They are just saying it's likely because we poach rhinoceroses today?
Edit: oh so there is evidence, the article just doesn't share it... journ*lists...
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I think we can be pretty sure since in America all these animals went extinct at the same moment, and that moment is when humans arrived. There's been a lot of attempts to blame it on something else but they're obviously politically motivated.
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Yep. Evidence in favor of the "humans obliterated hairy elephants" theory:
they went extinct right when humans showed up
there are ludicrous numbers of bones with tool marks on em
current human activity puts elephants at risk pf extinction, and we know humans were even more into killing elephants back then. It was like their whole thing.
Evidence against:
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Reminds me of when some people are like "oh we should do what indigenous people do to preserve animals they know how to live in harmony with the land" when in reality everyone was indigenous somewhere and in every place they were they hunted the frick out of anything large enough to eat
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Whenever anyone says that point out to them that Native Americans used to hunt bison by driving entire herds (hundreds if not thousands of animals) over cliffs, even though due their limited means of butchering and food preservation they could only get meat from about three bison before the carcasses started rotting
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The reason Australia's desert is as big as it is now because over the course of not really that long, geologically speaking, the small number of natives idly slash-and-burned their way through almost all the greenery it had left and without the place being discovered by the west they would eventually have just Easter Islanded themselves
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But kangaroos do better in arid savannahs than in forests, and they're easily top 5 funniest animals so it was probably worth it all things considered.
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have you seen the one with the parachute guy who lands and a random kangaroo immediately tries to punch his lights out
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Yes, it's another piece of the "noble savage" myth that has infested academia.
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IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NOBLE SAVAGE THING COMES FROM SMALL WEAKER TRIBES WHO ACTUALLY HELD TO THOSE BELIEFS ON TO HAVE FORMALLY MORE POWERFUL TRIBES ADOPT THE OUTLOOK AFTER BEING HUMBLED BY colonist...
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Savages are disgusting people and that white adjacents cowtow to them is laughable with their shame statements dumbocraps read before meetings. If they only knew how savage they were
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I agree, Whites are gross.
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Yeah this article is bullshit mostly because it was already the consensus that humans wiped them out.
Ancient humans used to just chase them off cliffs. The caloric payout vs effort was insane. And despite some hippie bullshit about being nature lovers, actual ancient humans didn't give a shit.
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In Australia we have similar political nonsense about the extinction of our megafauna. It's apparently a complete coincidence that they all died out just after Aboriginals showed up. Just like it's a complete coincidence that our once lush, heavily forested continent turned into a barren desert after they started setting everything on fire. Because everyone knows that Aboriginals have a magical connection with nature and are perfect custodians of the land and definitely didn't just burn shit for 40,000 years because it was the easiest way to get food.
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Like half the globe has been stripped bare of the native mega-fauna due to human hunting, it's pretty clear it's a sure shot we're responsible. As soon as we got cowtools we went haywire on killing things for meat, and mega-fauna couldn't replace itself fast enough. The Moa went extinct in New Zealand, the mammoth in Siberia, the Auroch in the middle east. The process was happening with bison in the Americas before conservation efforts kicked in.
Hunter gatherers were
and had little concept of sustainability, they didn't live as "one with nature". Deforestation in england happened due to hunter-gatherers literally burning entire forests to bait out deer to feast on the saplings that'd grow afterwards, and then kill those deer.
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Really crazy how the biggest trees in England are now California Redwoods that the Victorians planted for a laugh.
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https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2316419121
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Tldr?
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