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>one of my older boys, Xavier
Lock him up. Deadnaming and misgendering in the first degree.
btw, the article points to an interesting tension I haven't appreciated before - how do you deal with deadnaming/misgendering when you're directly quoting someone? Do you edit the quote? Redact it? Do you keep the quote but make the deadnaming explicit by linking the old and new names? Apparently in this article you just make it confusing by forcing the reader to confirm that Xavier/Vivian are the same person, when the article's text refers to Vivian but the quotes refer to Xavier.
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I guess TRAs advocate you edit the quote with brackets. So the quotes here should have been referring to "[Vivian]" rather than "Xavier", "[daughter]" rather than "son", etc. Seems pretty Orwellian but at least it's clear. Maybe s can be trolled by putting their names in brackets, like Jews and ((())).
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Although actually I'm not sure if the TRAs advocate this approach when someone is purposefully deadnaming, since the brackets are supposed to provide clarifications of intent rather than just overwrite wrongthink. Someone clarify.
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laha 6mo ago#6739846
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Wouldn't [sic] in the quote work? The quote using the deadname (and the deadname itself) are important context and content for the quotes imo.
!cuteandvalid!cuteandinvalid!dramatards someone ping the transphobes, I think there's a way we can formalize this to work both ways (for transphobes to b-word about quotes that use chosen names as well as valids for deadnames). The readability issue when an author disagrees with the speaker has been hilarious but maybe we can bring it to an end.
What, like "Xavier [Vivian]"? I guess maybe that works but it's still sorta deadnaming. Plus it might be confusing where people might think that the brackets are a last name or something else.
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No I mean the literal [sic] which follows a word and basically says "this is as it was originally recorded, though may require clarification or correction"
Usually it's used in a quote, for grammatical or spelling errors in an original written document that's being quoted.
"Important context" doesn't excuse deadnaming. When neuralink is completed it should be legally required that people's memories be edited so that they can't even remember a person's deadname.
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Lock him up. Deadnaming and misgendering in the first degree.
btw, the article points to an interesting tension I haven't appreciated before - how do you deal with deadnaming/misgendering when you're directly quoting someone? Do you edit the quote? Redact it? Do you keep the quote but make the deadnaming explicit by linking the old and new names? Apparently in this article you just make it confusing by forcing the reader to confirm that Xavier/Vivian are the same person, when the article's text refers to Vivian but the quotes refer to Xavier.
[Edit]
I guess TRAs advocate you edit the quote with brackets. So the quotes here should have been referring to "[Vivian]" rather than "Xavier", "[daughter]" rather than "son", etc. Seems pretty Orwellian but at least it's clear. Maybe
s can be trolled by putting their names in brackets, like Jews and ((())).
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Although actually I'm not sure if the TRAs advocate this approach when someone is purposefully deadnaming, since the brackets are supposed to provide clarifications of intent rather than just overwrite wrongthink. Someone clarify.
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Wouldn't [sic] in the quote work? The quote using the deadname (and the deadname itself) are important context and content for the quotes imo.
!cuteandvalid !cuteandinvalid !dramatards someone ping the transphobes, I think there's a way we can formalize this to work both ways (for transphobes to b-word about quotes that use chosen names as well as valids for deadnames). The readability issue when an author disagrees with the speaker has been hilarious but maybe we can bring it to an end.
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What, like "Xavier [Vivian]"? I guess maybe that works but it's still sorta deadnaming. Plus it might be confusing where people might think that the brackets are a last name or something else.
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No I mean the literal [sic] which follows a word and basically says "this is as it was originally recorded, though may require clarification or correction"
Usually it's used in a quote, for grammatical or spelling errors in an original written document that's being quoted.
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This is actually a really funny idea and we need to get the AP to start doing this, stat
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"Important context" doesn't excuse deadnaming. When neuralink is completed it should be legally required that people's memories be edited so that they can't even remember a person's deadname.
Anything else is trans genocide.
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That's fricking gay if I could edit memories I'd make people think I was originally a wolf !wolfpack
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You always have been, homie.
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