If a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal.
— JD Vance (@JDVance) February 9, 2025
If a judge tried to command the attorney general in how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that's also illegal.
Judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power.
Burgers have an extremely r-slurred political system. If a PM in Canada actually tried the Burger "Ignore the courts", the House of Commons would force a non confidence vote, and they would likely lose it.
What's the point of the judiciary if one of the President's goons says "The President said so"?
MAGA cultists should be forced to pay a 300% tariff on everything.
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Woo gee, what an unhinged maniac that has... a professor of constitutional law from Harvard totally agreeing with him that this judge is clueless.
But, wait wait wait, hold it! Not so fast MAGAts! Liz Cheney says they're wrong! The end!
Edit: Reddit thinks Cheney is awesome, of course:
https://old.reddit.com/r/clevercomebacks/comments/1ilp12k/liz_cheney_calls_out_the_vice_president_jd_vance/
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STOP INTERFERING WITH MY LEGITIMATE ACTS OF STATE
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Listen to me grue, you ape. Im raping you now. How is this unconstitutional?
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I'd say it's cruel and unusual punishment![:marseybattered: :marseybattered:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseybattered.webp)
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There are almost 700 US District Judges. The fact that at least one of them is a glaring r-slur, as pointed by the Harvard professor, and willing to throw out his credibility to annoy Trump isn't surprising. Said r-slur is also not singlehandedly "the constitutional auditors"™ or the final word on the subject.
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Not the final word, but they are a check, it's part of the process.
Still stuck on that huh
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Yea, I'll stick to it because the leading constitutional scholars at Ivy League schools aren't really known for being Trump loyalists. I think Alan Dershowitz is the only one to speak of and this isn't him. Chances are that this judge will be overturned and it's also only a temporary halt for like a week anyways.
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If you reckon one in 700 federal judges could be wrong, what's one in 115 law professors?
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The number is more relevant in the context of understanding that this isn't the collective voice of the constitutional auditors restraining Trump. In terms of an Ivy League professor of constitutional law being wrong on it, of course it could happen too. What's suggestive, though, is one of them, not known at all for being a Trump supporter, is willing to put his own reputation on the line to say, in no uncertain terms, that the judge is violating the separation of powers. You can see why an Obama appointee would thwart, or at least slow down, Trump, but what's the perverse incentive for professor Vermeule here?
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I can absolutely see a (really dumb to follow up on) perverse incentive for the judge and likewise see only reasons NOT to speak out for the professor, if the professor was acting cynically. I think that's pretty good evidence that the professor is speaking sincerely, and that both of these are compelling circumstantial evidence for the theory that the judge is acting beyond their powers for politically motivated reasons.
I just also believe there's possibly a reason the President usually doesn't mess with the Treasury so directly. Ain't that a Congress thing?
So I think your belief is reasonable, but I'm not so convinced of it.
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I think that Trump's approach is unprecedented, but I really don't know that much political history from before my lifetime that isn't like the large or major events. But I think it's still well within the scope of the executive power. Otherwise, nothing really to add. I think your comment is a good summation of things. We'll leave it at that.
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Treasury is very much part of the executive branch. Still serves at the pleasure of the president.
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Um, being a catholic integralist like vance? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Vermeule
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That doesn't really answer the question. One doesn't get to be a Harvard constitutional law scholar by holding a personal belief about the ideal Catholic society that they can't differentiate from the actual legal system. And Catholic integralism itself has nothing to do with the question of the executive branch exercising its power over the treasury department as far as I can tell. I guess you could say that this guy might be predisposed to like the vice-president on a personal level, but I just don't see how that translates into him throwing away his reputation in order to be blatantly wrong about the separation of powers here.
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Any politician that uses the term rage quit should be banned from politics. I don't want g*mers in positions of power.
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