How many people will die because of climate change?
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Probably about half the world population before we actually change our behaviors. They'll be brown and poor so the world will not care for a while.
We will hardly register the first billion. But after three maybe we will pay attention
I think the world will quickly discover how much labour of invisible people they depend on. So much manufacturing has moved out of China to parts of India and neighbouring countries. Look up a list of the countries most at risk of extreme heat waves and then look up their major exports an industries.
People aren't just going to quietly let themselves and their families die, they will try to escape and become climate refugees. It will be a refugee crisis like we've never seen. Conflicts will erupt and its effects will cascade across the world economy. We very much should be building infrastructure to accommodate everyone in a sustainable way, but we aren't. Instead, fascist governments will stoak xenophobia and leverage it to solidify power.
People will die in the southwest of the United States- rise in older people and poor people it can rise quickly to thousands
It's already happening it's dystopian times- homeless people pass out on sidewalks wake up with 3rd degree burns- some don't survive- older people die in houses can't afford ac
In Phoenix 14 heat-related deaths since May, with 234 under investigation. As of this time in 2023, the county had recorded 12 heat-related deaths with about 100 under investigation
current metro area population of Phoenix in 2024 is 4,777,000
A BILLION WILL DIE IN A FEW DECADES BUT PEOPLE WONT CARE CAUSE THEY'RE BROWN 
By 2050 it might be easier to ask how many will be left.
We are already seeing people dying in rich northern countries. Hundreds of people died in Canada in the heat dome a couple years ago, and billions of sea creatures off the coast of BC where I lived at the time. It's a drop in the bucket compared to the life that will be lost in poorer countries which is incredibly unfair. But it's not something that will happen, it's something that is already happening.
So many concerned leafs on that thread 
2084. Lol.
Let's reassess after we get through 2030 shall we. We'll need brand new models to predict the heck to come.
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as the only level-headed climate change armchair expert I've met, how worried should Americans be about climate changes in like a !zoomers lifetime? Should we be expecting like the collapse of domestic food production or something?
What do you feel are the most sensical mitigations for climate change at this point? Would electrifying transportation and making it greener help?
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All the first world and wealthy developing countries have to do is build more nuclear reactors. That's it. But they won't because the people most concerned about climate change are r-slurred.
I'm not worried because even if the US doesn't use nuclear tech to solve the issue, they can have engineering projects to counteract slightly rising water levels.
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It depends on the level of warming. 2 C, 3 C, 4C.
Right now we're heading to 3C above pre-industrial level by 2100, though it will continue to warm in the 22nd century just not at the same rate before reaching an equilibrium.
3C is not an apocalypse but is still very bad. We're talking about a 1 meter rise on sea level, increased heatwaves (the Northern Hemisphere warms more and faster than the Southern Hemisphere) and increased precipitations on a global level altering hydrological cycles. Stronger hurricanes and tornadoes and potential crop failure in several parts of the globe.
So reducing emissions is the best way to avoid worst case scenarios and even something like 2.5 C is much better than 3C (the Paris agreement goal of 1.5 C is a pipe dream that will be breached as early as 2030). But is likely stuff like GMO tech will be used to create more resistant crops, some climate adaptation will happen whether we like it or not.
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And us civils will make bank on sea walls
!engineering
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Does this mean New York will sink
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Why can't we dig a massive river or lake in Australia or Nevada for all the excess water? I am an r-slur and have always wondered why that is not possible.
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The excess water is in the atmosphere and forms part of the water cycle on a global level, an artificial lake is merely redirecting water from one place to the other, it doesn't trap atmospheric water, only freezing the water is capable of trapping it.
This excess is caused by the melting of the ice caps, before that the excess was trapped on the ice. During the last glacial maximum 20k years ago the weather was much, much drier and because of that making large scale agriculture like the one we know impossible, that's the reason why the neolithic revolution started after the North American, European and Siberian ice caps melted.
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Lmao no the only thing that'll screw
that is continual poor water 
management not a couple 
degree 
shift in weather.
In fact crops are likely much better
with the increased temperature as seen in the medieval warm period.
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California is so fricking r-slurred with giving farmers low prices to grow water-intensive crops. If they really gave a shit about the environment, they'd stop doing that, but they won't because
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@lain, some basic political economy at play which has me rolling my eyes at climate change enthusiasts.
Higher water prices would also encourage more investment in grey water systems, with no further need for government intervention. I hate government so much, it's unreal
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Water-intensive crops aren't the problem, at least specifically. The goal isn't to produce the most pounds/calories of food but the most revenue for producers and the state given limited water.
Personally, I think we should grow more pistachios, as they are efficient in terms of revenue dollars per gallon of water. !friendsofpizzashill
However, I think what we grow should ultimately be up to farmers -- who should pay market rates for water.
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is there any chance of new megafauna?
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Megafauna don't do well in heat, it's harder to dissipate metabolic thermal energy when you have more volume relative to surface area.
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Haha, don't I know it
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More likely our remaining megafauna will go extinct.
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not the fricking whales bro
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That's what I'm afraid of. Regardless of geoengineering to cool the planet down, ocean acidification due to CO2 absorption is inevitable and is wrecking marine life.
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that's japan
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Not until the dinosaurs return
to rule over us as kings
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Excess CO2 reduces plant nutritional values despite helping in their growth, that being said the Centre-West region of Brazil is so hot I'm surprised by how cattle resists and how they're managing to produce soybeans in mass quantities there.
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yeah this would be bad... so what are our climate "experts" thinking up to mitigate it?
ban fertilizers
just straight up eliminate 30% of beef industry in europe
remove fuel subsides for agricultural equipment
create incentives and restrictions such that it makes more sense to sell your farm than try to run it
buy up all that farmland to be converted to wind and solar farms or just retvrnd to nature
promote eating ze bug
glyphosate wasn't banned 30 years ago apparently???? they're still spraying it everywhere
oof ouch owie my balls
so idk maybe we just leave the food supply alone. and ban the obvious cancer chemicals lol
in fact most of the emissions targets and nonsense they dream up will destroy the planet worse than they climate will
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Glyphosate is not even cancerous, even red meat is listed as cancerous while a link between cancer and glyphosate hasn't been established. It is toxic in large amounts but that's the case with every chemical and requires responsible use, try to drink a glass of bleach, it won't do wonders to your body either.
!chemistry how to tackle the general public chemophobia?
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I don't want any chemicals or plastics in my balls that I didn't put there myslef
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more people freeze to death than die of heat each year
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I don't think that's in opposition to the "mainstream" view of climate change.
The climate is a chaotic system and will have hot and cold spots (obviously) - increasing the energy (heat) in the system will lead it to have more extremes in both the hot and cold spots.
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The general trend is warming. There can be a few record breaking freezing days but winters as a whole will be warmer and shorter.
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Summerchads wya?
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I'm already suffering from this
Last summer was so long, it usually starts to cool down in March with April being a fresh month.
But this year March was hellish (we hit 95F almost every day of February and March, it was awful), April was hot as the first half of may, we got of first cool days of the year in late May.
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It's 50F outside right now, so at least July has been chilly so far.
Your fiancée comes from the Land of Always Summer (Pernambuco).
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What is the point in worrying? There is absolutely nothing you as a person can do to prevent societal collapse. Live each day to the fullest and adapt as needs arise.
Materially, start hoarding lighters as they will become an incredibly valuable commodity in times of need
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I like knowing what's "True" and it would affect how I vote on public policy.
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I just dont vote
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I love to voooote, my late great grandmother was adamant about it being a civil duty. She continued voting even when she couldn't leave the house
I signed up to work the polls this year and curious how that will goo
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!metashit, we've got a !dramatards on the first line of electoral interference.
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I fricking hate voting
Voting is obligatory over here and I oppose it
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Commenting to come back, my general
take is that food is within tolerance for adaptation if you're just feeding 
your own people but if it's a significant export (as it is for youse and us) you'll feel that. It may not be in range for private innovation tho, but ag has never 
really 
been a gov free zone.
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