No drama, just laughing at poors.
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I make $60k a year before tax, have no kids, no mortgage, no debt. I rent and don't own a car. I don't know how anyone with any of those things and makes the same or less than me survives. I'm sick of food costs being outrageous. Not fancy foods or organic foods, just regular brand name, basic foods. I'm tired of take-aways being $20-25 for basic greasy asian food, Turkish food, etc. I think it's less of a discussion and more of a rant, but what are you guys sick and tired of?
For reference, median income in NZ is 56k NZD, which is about 33k USD. So this moron is making just above 35k USD.
I'd take up crime rather than live like this.
These cute twinks can't even do an successful online boycott.
Wow where the heck do you live in nz for all that
The people who are responding to you saying ‘60k should be fine!' do not live in Auckland.
Auckland is their most expensive city. This would be like someone in Manhattan (median income $52k $67k) complaining about being unable to survive without roommates on $55k salary. It's doable, but it's not fun.
Finally, someone asks the real question.
They choose to rent alone (which I totally get after enough bad experiences), that's usually 400+ mark depending on location and what you're willing to accept.
We've likely got a hustle and bustle OP.
Yea i think it's a bit sus, I've been in OPs position albeit a few years ago during the beginning of covid but had 1 car with 385 p week rent. I didn't struggle at all. I would love to see their true expenses. Most often they're spending a lot more than they realize...
Sick and tired of people complaining about food costs and then eating takeaways?
Are poor people never allowed to eat takeaways now?
Lol no. If you're poor, first work on not being poor.
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does some math and calls out OP.
That's so much incorrect assumption I don't even know where to begin to correct it
Then correct me because half of this thread is wondering why you have no money
Yea i call bullshit on OP, they're doing something to spend that excess.
This ruffled some feathers.
So, yeah, the rest of the thread is a mix of sad stories, doubting OP's story, and telling him to git gud.
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These people don't know strife and hardship
You know i work weekly in the township ghettos, where people here live in sinkhouses. I have to set out the development foundations. Shanty towns made of scrapmetal. The people use outhouses dug with their hands
The local municipality have been hard at work RDP houses, so people wait for the provincial government tp build homes, yet there's always more people than homes can be built fast enough, so they come and life in sinkhouses for as much as 5 years before they finally get their shit
With sinkhouses being boiling hot in the summer, and frozen cold in the winter, never being proof against the wind. These people are made of steel
So when i see people living in such opulence and b-word about being poor it irritates me in a manner i cant explain
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For people not from the Dark Continent, what is a sinkhouse?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462336/The-white-squatter-camps-South-Africa-home-hundreds-families-enduring-terrible-poverty-blame-fall-Apartheid.html
Walls made from the sink roof plates
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SOVL
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!peakpoors d I s g u s t I n g
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There is a solution here
Honestly I'm just really surprised median income in Manhattan is 52k what that seems insanely low to me.
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Shit ton of poors on the dole. They can't afford to leave, so they're stuck there, and the city fleeces everyone else to feed them.
Edit: Googlefu failed me. It's around $67k.
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Still pretty low considering rents probably at least 3k a month for a studio
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the real poors are probably sharing a 3br with other people and not in a studio by themselves, plus 3k/mo is for a good studio
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Don't they have a lot of rent controlled/stabilized apartments?
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Yeah but in order for rent control to work you need everything to be rent controlled, so that's why this is still an issue
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Around 50% of people in NYC have roommates
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Isn't that what hustle and bustlers want? High density housing? They should all be living 5+ to a studio.
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!sd freakishly thin marsey in the style of marsey
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Top right is the look my cats give me when I don't give them my food
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!sd Marsey getting shot
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!sd marsey starving ribs visible
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!sd marsey starving body
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!sd marsey thin hungry poverty emaciated husk
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Tfw every bodybuilder lives like this
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Isn't it funny how a salary that provides the basics is essentially poverty if you don't use constantly escalating credit to indebt yourself on ways you'll never recover from?
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Wtf how do they get by? I guess the only Australians and New Zealanders I've met are the ones rich enough to take vacations in the US or Europe but I always imagined they were Canada tier wealth at least
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Americans don't realise how rich most of them actually are, in most developed countries the average is similar to that. It's around $40k in the UK and France
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It's why antiwork is so funny because it's full of Americans lamenting how destitute they are despite making more than the median income in most other developed countries
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On one hand i think costs are different from countey to country. But amerikkka definitely pushes the idea everyone can afford door dash trash
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Just from watching house hunter, living in Europe seems way more expensive. Mainly cause you get a closet with an electric stove and space for a twice at $2000 a month
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There's just way less space in Europe. The UK is about the same size as Colorado but has 65 million people
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Yeah no shit
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Ben and Jerries was 3 bucks when I last went to Alsace Frogs
be poor outside 
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I honestly have no idea. I know AU and NZ are stupidly expensive because of their geographical location and welfare policies. I have a cousin who lives in NZ, he and his wife are codecels and pull in over 180k NZD (~106k USD) total and live a comfortable suburban life with a kid. Reading these stories, I can only surmise that redditors are the lowest of the low rung wagies.
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Australia does have a few things going for it- very high salaries related to mining in blue and white collar roles, no recessions since the 80s allowing constant wealth accumulation, and strong labor laws and a welfare state that allows people to live a little larger without needing to save much if you are on the lower end.
The pas decade of cheap credit is going to result in a global lost decade though, and we won't recover for half a century until we're on the other side of the demographic collapse
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The cost of living in Sydney is getting absurd though. It will be a complete sexy Indian dude paradise soon enough, since we'll be importing rich sexy Indian dudes.
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Anglo countries are all dealing with housing issues at the moment, New Zealand are the only ones who've done anything about it yet and that's only because their prices went absolutely mental during covid. The Irish housing situation especially is dire at the moment
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Meanwhile the antiwork people will keep denying that it's supply and demand by trotting out some bullshit study about how there are millions of vacant houses.
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In rural shitholes where they would refuse to live.
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When you point that out they deny it.
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RENT CONTROL NOW!!!
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Oh is there a shortage of daube and thatch shanties?
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When a house comes up for rent in Dublin you get literal queues round the block to view it
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lmao what's even the point of standing in line when you're 20 people from the front? I assume it's first come first serve for whoever wants it an can afford the rent.
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I guess you go "what did the last guy offer you? I'll offer you a bit more"
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lol @ expansionary monetary policy
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Just as the Anglos drove the Abbos before them we shall drive the Anglos before us
For our fallen Asiatic brothers
we shall reclaim the land.
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If I have to learn subcastes then I'm becoming a white nationalist
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Well, the Anglos still have good old fashioned racism to make the Sexy Indian dudes seethe.
You may do the needful, become CEOs, and take over suburbs, but you will always hear in the background "Poo in loo.................."
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Have no idea how true this is but I've heard there is a class of Aussies with coal rich families that are able to cake off of that for years, those are the ones you meet traveling. Kinda like how LA, austin and Colorado are filled with oil money Texan women larp'Ing as liberals
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Why are so many burgers unable to understand that everything is simply cheaper in most other countries lol
Compare to here in frogland... No 401k (employer pays for it) much cheaper healthcare (tax le rich) and rent that's almost half of what I'd pay in a similarly sized US city... I got by with really low wage when I was younger. Min wage is like 20k now, and it's enough to live okay in most of the country, even despite the recent price hikes.
The big difference with the US is that you usually won't earn much more than that unless you have at least a master's and/or work in a field that pays well. I know plenty of folks with bachelor's or master's that earn like 30k. Because of that there's not much incentive to get a diploma and work hard.
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What I'm saying is that Europe has lower wages but also a lower cost of living, but to me it seems like NZ has lower wages but a similar cost of living to the US, which kinda screws then over. Rough translating the numbers but $1500USD rent is 50% of your income if you make $30,000 annually
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must be going into debt for his funcopop trash or insists on living in an area he can't actually afford.
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I don't understand how that's possible, you'd only have to be working 22 hours a week on minimum wage to earn that
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13 hours a week dogwalking the rest reddit moderating
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Usually that's what these people do.
They have one part time shift job and don't get a second because the schedule is unreliable. And they think this should guarantee them the right to live in a dense urban center
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These are the people that support affirmative action for the Maori and programs for the Maori while apparently not being able to afford a good life. Everything is the fault of a shadowy group of elites that have all the money and every failure is manufactured by this shadowy group. How anyone can believe themselves to be poor as a yt man and not support getting rid of all affirmative action and support for minorities is beyond me, have some greed for once.
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Plz check housing prices, 60k is low
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I absolutely refuse to watch this film on principal. All it does is glorify the "lone wolf white male" archetype. It gives incels and and nazis a hero figure for them to look up to. It is absolutely disgusting and is NOT the movie that we need right now. Who the frick thought this would be a good idea in our current political climate? The number one terrorist threat in the US right now is a white male.
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I get about 25k a year but grew up on less. It's shit but you do actually adjust eventually. Rice really is a great staple food, brown rice is better than white and from there just add other- less greasy- things to it.:
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When are we going to riot already. We learned about all these other cultures in social studies that rioted and stormed the streets while the leaders ate cake throughout history.
So...when are we gonna riot?:
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My wife and I with a young daughter are on under $70k a year and find things pretty comfortable. We buy a lot of organic food, eat out occasionally and haven't been struggling.:
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I'm honestly not sure how you'd be struggling that hard unless you are living somewhere with outrageous rent?:
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Sick and tired of people complaining about food costs and then eating takeaways?:
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So every week you have $500 a week left. I wouldn't say you are on your way to buy a house any time soon but I fail to see how you are feeling poor despite the high food cost.:
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I hate to say this but some poor people are bad with money. Even if you got 100k you would still find you dont have enough, do some budgeting man. You wont regret it. Also poor people cant afford 25 dollar takeout a night man. It just means you are not budgeting well.:
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