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Chicago mayor proposes city-owned grocery stores as Walmart, Whole Foods exits leave 'food deserts' : illinois
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lmaooo
I should post some more drama with our mayor. He's one of the least competent mayors ever and he got elected on a super progressive platform. Also relevant: his job before mayor was literally being a paid shill for the teachers' union, that's not a joke, he was unironically on their payroll as he was running for office.
They've tried subsidizing stores but the theft and crime is so bad that even with subsidies they wind up closing, plus ironically a lack of demand. The title mentions Walmart and Whole Foods but they also lost a Target. Oh and that Whole Foods wasn't a normal Whole Foods - it was a special one with much lower prices and shittier products aimed specifically at the target demographic, and it still went bust.
Oh and one more tidbit - when they say "food desert" in the context of Chicago, what they typically mean is "no full-service grocer within 1 mile". Yes if your nearest supermarket is 1.1 miles away, congrats, you're in a "food desert". Basically they don't really exist in the city and I challenge anybody to come up with a valid residential address in Chicago that's just too far from any kind of grocer.
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Nothing within a mile is pretty bad. Like obviously you can walk farther but that isn't normal for a city.
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I think a less than 10-minute walk is fine. You can get a bike or scooter if you want to get there faster. These items are very cheap if you're on a budget (buy them used) and you don't need a dedicated parking space for them.
Sure you could argue that having a grocer within a 5-minute walk is nicer than within a 10-minute walk but to argue that having to walk 10 minutes to the grocery store is some sort of existential crisis is r-slurred.
Also most of the "food deserts" in Chicago are on the south side of the city which is much less densely populated. Most people there drive cars because the train lines don't go that far (it's REALLY far south from downtown), it's basically a quasi-suburb.
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Well yes, but a mile is closer to a 20-minute walk.
I've never been to Chicago though so
maybe that makes sense.
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My walking speed is 6 miles per hour, easy.
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But what about quadriplegic single moms working 18 jobs who can't afford a scooter?
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people should
at a minimum live 15 minutes walking 
distance to a shopping center. having to rely on vehicles for basic 
goods is cancer.
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people should live minimum 15 minutes driving distance from the nearest person. having to put up with neighbors is cancer
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!bumpkins lmao imagine living less than a mile from a store. Literal hellscape
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Well in Chicago the bipocs can't walk more than a mile to the store without stumbling into a gun battle with a rival gang so maybe they have a semi reasonable point
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Sociologists will call a place a food desert because they have fresh produce but not enough variety by their arbitrary standards. Anything to avoid admitting that poors and browns are fat because they genuinely like KFC.
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i think
poor obesity is caused more by frozen 
food and instant ramen.
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