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This hole exists as a safe space for refugees from the Facebook(MetaTM groups of the same name. Of which there have been several iterations. We mostly exist to poke fun at the state of living in poverty. While it oftentimes is unavoidable, we do aspire to not be meanspirited. Over the years we have co-opted the term 'Peak Poor' to being someone who exudes poverty, regardless of their actual net worth. Trump and Elon both exhibit the peak poor ethos from time to time while still being the top 0.000001%. You can do something peak poor and still be a good person or a generally adjusted one. We all have a bit of poor in us.
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I'm glad to see there's at least some push-back to this in the replies, but sometimes as an observer I have to remind myself how out-of-step this sub-reddit is with a lot of the people I talk with in DSM in the real world everyday and what most people seem to think about this problem and how to help and see change. This sub's need to infantilize every aspect of this issue is really off-putting to a lot of people who probably otherwise support a good portion of advocacy for the homeless, and these people are well meaning. Just because everyone doesn't agree with every single aspect of your ideal fix doesn't mean they don't want to see something change for the better for people.
We walk the river trails almost every day (or at least the days where it's not 95+ degrees from sun up until sun down). We see plenty of homeless people camped along the river, down on the embankments, under the bridges, etc. Most of them are respectful, mind their own business, take care of the few things they have and are exceptionally normal and polite.
But it really does harm the argument and advocacy for these folks when we have to obstinately pretend that there aren't a smaller number of the homeless people who aren't polite, don't mind their own business, and do not treat their own stuff or environment well at all. And some of those people are downright unsafe to be around. When people put blinders on like that and insist that it's a moral imperative that we have to treat every homelessness case like it's the exact same, you are driving people away from your cause by asking them not to believe their own eyes or trust their own experiences.
Recently, when we've been walking along the river there is a fellow staying along a couple of the bridges who seems to be causing a lot of trouble both towards the runners/walkers on the trails and the other homeless people who are camping nearby. He behaves erratically. He aggressively is pacing back and forth all day long screaming at people. He has two push carts stacked four-feet high with stuff, covered in plastic, and a backpack-style suitcase, and he's down there yelling incoherently to himself and cussing randomly at other homeless people and people just walking along the trails. This afternoon while walking our dog we watched him looking into a bunch of random car windows in one of the nearby parking lots, then he followed us and a couple of young women to the trails yelling incoherently.
A few nights ago on the way back from our walk we saw him swinging a bottle over the head of another homeless lady who has been around for a while and been very polite to us and basically had her cornered against a chain link fence. She did not look like she wanted him to be near her. This guy has his stuff tucked up under a hole he's dug near a retaining wall along the trail and is camping within 30 yards of a business that has kids coming and going all day. Those two people are not the same thing.
I'm sorry, but that's not okay. If that makes me a bad person, then I guess too bad. In my opinion people deserve second and third chances. People deserve help when they've fallen on bad luck. People deserve the opportunity to have meaningful work, and help with transitional housing, healthcare, and food. But it is also the undeniable reality that there are people who are not interested in accepting help, and who are not only not interested in accepting help, but are also causing chaos both for their fellow homeless population and the general community. This is the fact of the matter.
If there is ever to be meaningful headway on this subject, we can't stick our heads in the sand and pretend that there isn't a small contingent of the homeless population that is making public spaces less safe for everyone, including their peers. We have to be able to make meaningful distinctions between the people who need and want help and the people who will literally find any excuse to avoid changing their situation, or those who for whatever reason cannot do so and are as a result a danger to themselves and others. Someone who has just fallen on some hard times is not the same as someone who is suffering from debilitating drug addiction, and someone who is dealing with debilitating drug addiction is not the same as someone who has severe and untreated mental illness. These people exist. You cannot through advocacy and stubbornness make it so most people pretend they aren't here.
Every time I lurk on one of these threads in this sub-reddit it's like the morality Olympics in here. Who can project the most empathy toward the situation? Who has the best half-baked, one-size-fits-all solution? It makes the people with good intentions who are advocating for support for the homeless come off as though they are being uncompromising on a problem that is intractable. This has to stop.
Most of us want everyone, including the homeless, to feel safe and welcomed in our community. I cannot think of a more harmful thing for homeless people than treating people who just need a couple stretches of good luck the exact same as people who are legitimately harming the community as the exact same. I cannot think of a more harmful thing for homeless people than trying to absolve them of any responsibility or agency over their own lives, including having to have the basic respect of following any rules at all in order to integrate back into society. We all follow rules. We all have responsibilities. We all expect, off the web forums, a certain level of basic respect between each other. People who are not pushing their stuff online all day are not going to get on board with absolutism. It just isn't going to happen. These are adult human beings. Not infants. Give them that respect. And that includes some accountability.
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If it boils down to something like "gee golly we should give them more stuff," then they're just as r-slurred as their libtard cousins on the US Coast.
Almost all homeless are well past their third chance. They're junkies, and no amount of subsidies nor lenient punishment will solve that problem. We already have plenty of real world experiments that have been failing for years, yet they keep doing it [most likely because voters are well-intended idiots who keep electing people who say nice things but also ignore unintended outcomes]. The political system is severely r-slurred.
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I didn't actually read the comment that I pasted but I'll assume you're right.
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Thanks all the same, sweaty!
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You're the ones arguing that them not having stuff makes them immoral
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Nice try, sphereclone.
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