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garlicdoors 3mo ago#6916554
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And how in the heck would she do it in the wild? She's gotta eat a lot more than normal but she can't be good at hunting in that condition. Maybe food is just so abundant during the season when kittens are born?
Honestly I don't think they work to raise the entire litter. The mother only keeps who keeps up with her if that makes sense. Sheila unfortunately had a bad habit of neglecting Dean from early on. They're selective of who they put energy into, even if its heartbreaking to us, its survival to them.
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Rad_juju 3mo ago#6922404
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I've seen evidence (okay let's be honest, a 3 minute clip on Nature, but in my boomer times we trusted PBS so I do when I want to). Anyway it was on that island of stray cats in Japan. Cat gives birth and her sister babysits for her while she goes out getting food.
Chuds melt down to China Syndrome levels "NOOOOOOO nobody can ever cooperate, Darwin said cooperation is for simps!!!"
Ummm... If you believe in evolution siblings looking out for each others' kids isn't an anomaly, it's to be expected.
Also this is anecdotal but the girl I raised up from being a kitten, we were like 3000% on the same page every moment. I even taught her that if I'm holding her and she's looking down the street watching for imaginary enemies that will never come, she can motion to me to rotate so she can look in another direction where there have never been any enemies for years. IIRC every goal I had for "training" us to cooperate completely worked. Systems engineering and trusting your cat to know what she's doing are the two best things I've learned in my life. Anyway the important thing is that people are saying they're "not social animals" because that's dogma they learned in their time. And all of their social interactions with us are because they've evolved to be infantilized to get human attention.
R-slurred on many levels and he should know that. You can't just evolve cat-human behavior from nothing in 5,000 years. And do not even get my started with the "cats come from Egypt" bullshit. Cats in Egypt do not have a really specific pattern on their fur where from above they look like dead leaves in a temperate forest in the fall on the top and white like a cloud on the bottom. And this might blow everyone's minds but nobody in ancient times said cats came from Egypt. Which is EXACTLY the kind of story Herodotus, Ctesies, Diodorus Siculus, etc. would have included even if it was totally not true. Indicates this was not even a myth back then.
It's a matter ot what momma cat has to work with. Sheila's situation was and still kinda is dire. She needs so much food to produce a fraction of the milk she should be producing. It's rehabilitation time for everyone in her little family for a while.
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Rad_juju 3mo ago#6922427
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It's one of these situations where you realize they don't live in the same moral universe as us.
Not all my litter made it, whatevs. I tried.
Oh, you put that bird out of its misery when I was torturing it by chopping off its head with a shovel and buried the body? You left the head so now I'm gonna learn to play soccer! @X all of my pets are way closer to being on Manchester United than your chins. #justSaying
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This post made me think about the absolute mass milk manufacturing it must take to feed a litter that's around half your weight.
How does she do it?
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And how in the heck would she do it in the wild? She's gotta eat a lot more than normal but she can't be good at hunting in that condition. Maybe food is just so abundant during the season when kittens are born?
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Honestly I don't think they work to raise the entire litter. The mother only keeps who keeps up with her if that makes sense. Sheila unfortunately had a bad habit of neglecting Dean from early on. They're selective of who they put energy into, even if its heartbreaking to us, its survival to them.
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I've seen evidence (okay let's be honest, a 3 minute clip on Nature, but in my boomer times we trusted PBS so I do when I want to). Anyway it was on that island of stray cats in Japan. Cat gives birth and her sister babysits for her while she goes out getting food.
Chuds melt down to China Syndrome levels "NOOOOOOO nobody can ever cooperate, Darwin said cooperation is for simps!!!"
Ummm... If you believe in evolution siblings looking out for each others' kids isn't an anomaly, it's to be expected.
Also this is anecdotal but the girl I raised up from being a kitten, we were like 3000% on the same page every moment. I even taught her that if I'm holding her and she's looking down the street watching for imaginary enemies that will never come, she can motion to me to rotate so she can look in another direction where there have never been any enemies for years. IIRC every goal I had for "training" us to cooperate completely worked. Systems engineering and trusting your cat to know what she's doing are the two best things I've learned in my life. Anyway the important thing is that people are saying they're "not social animals" because that's dogma they learned in their time. And all of their social interactions with us are because they've evolved to be infantilized to get human attention.
R-slurred on many levels and he should know that. You can't just evolve cat-human behavior from nothing in 5,000 years. And do not even get my started with the "cats come from Egypt" bullshit. Cats in Egypt do not have a really specific pattern on their fur where from above they look like dead leaves in a temperate forest in the fall on the top and white like a cloud on the bottom. And this might blow everyone's minds but nobody in ancient times said cats came from Egypt. Which is EXACTLY the kind of story Herodotus, Ctesies, Diodorus Siculus, etc. would have included even if it was totally not true. Indicates this was not even a myth back then.
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It's a matter ot what momma cat has to work with. Sheila's situation was and still kinda is dire. She needs so much food to produce a fraction of the milk she should be producing. It's rehabilitation time for everyone in her little family for a while.
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It's one of these situations where you realize they don't live in the same moral universe as us.
Not all my litter made it, whatevs. I tried.
Oh, you put that bird out of its misery when I was torturing it by chopping off its head with a shovel and buried the body? You left the head so now I'm gonna learn to play soccer! @X all of my pets are way closer to being on Manchester United than your chins. #justSaying
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that's why we're formula feeding on top of Sheila's milk... we as humans can choose to save lives, or at least try to.
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!friendsofsnappy Longie absolutely destroys this r-slur.
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This explains your longposting
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A sufficiently motivated cat can get several catches a day
I'm convinced that most of the time cats are in "Cs get degrees" mode and don't try any harder at things than they have to
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Incredible how nature perseveres, isnt it?
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