I tried speaking a few sentences to a foid today who was working a shop. Younger foid, pretty. I asked her a question about herself and she became eye contact avoidant and the guy next to her spoke for her. I neurodivergentally ended up asking the guy if he was a sibling because I am used to expecting siblings to speak for one another, but beyond that I don't think I fricked up the conversation.
I now have confirmation that above average looking foids do not want to interact with me. Which means I must currently be a 3-4 out of 10 moid.
It's over for the next 12 months for me.
I think every moid should try and find out their moid levels. If she calls the police you are a 1 or 2 out of 10. If she actively starts trying to avoid you, you are a 3-5 out of 10. If she is willing to speak with you and communicate then you are a 6-8 out of 10. If she seems interested in you then you are a 9 or 10 out of 10.
This is the stranger moid index for reference.
Good luck.
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Sorry, I'm going to serious-post. And I'm going to seem silly if it turns out that your post is fiction, but whatever. This might help some kings.
Success with women is not just based on physical appearance, it's a combination of physical appearance, vibes, ability to project sexuality, and a lot of other things. Plus women just vary in between themselves. I've had attractive women give me the "eew why is he talking to me" look and I've also had s*x with attractive women.
Keep trying, king. And start learning from your experiences so that you build your skills.
I'm no Casanova, as can be seen from my other posts. But I've been around a bit, I've been with a good number of women, and I have a sense for what works, besides just raw physical appearance of course. I think it's actually amazingly simple. The most important thing, other than looks and having at least some basic social skills, is to actually be turned on when interacting with women. Be in a sexual mood. Not in an ego-validation mood, which some people confuse with sexual mood. The difference is, in ego-validation mood you want to get with the woman so that you feel better about yourself as a man. In sexual mood, you want to get with the woman because you want to frick her. Women respond poorly to the ego-validation mood, but they respond well to the sexual mood. The sexual mood is also great because it annihilates distractions and inhibiting thoughts. In sexual mood everything is very clear and simple. I should clarify that when I say sexual mood, I mean a relaxed sort of state of arousal and desire, not some kind of frantic running around trying to hump everything like a monkey.
Ol' Gunwitch the pick up artist, for whatever his faults might be, explained all this clearly many years ago: https://web.archive.org/web/20140121175551/http://gunwitch.fastseduction.com/. But it took me years to appreciate the simplicity of it. You don't need a bunch of complicated ideas or methods, you need just one thing: being in sexual state, actually being turned on when interacting with women. Obviously becoming as good-looking as possible is important. But other than looks and having some basic level of social skills, the one thing that is by far the most important, I think, is to be able to be in a genuine sexual mood when interacting with women.
This is a skill that can be learned. Or rather, one can unlearn the things that are blocking it. Straight men are naturally turned on by women, so it is just a matter of learning how to be more relaxed around women... you don't need to learn how to be in a sexual mood, you need to learn how to relax enough that your sexual mood is not inhibited around women.
The thing is, it's not necessarily easy to get to the point where you can be turned on around women in public. Many of us guys have a lot of inhibitions against it. One thing I would recommend is, try to go places that make you more turned on. For example, if you're like me, you would find it hard to get turned on in a loud bar full of crude people. But you might more easily get turned on in a classy wine bar. Spend more time in places that help you to feel sexual.
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Isn't this the exact opposite of how women are teaching their sons, brothers, and fathers to behave?
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Women don't know how to pick up women. Also try not to ask workers personal questions outside of "How's your day/shift" they are paid to be at work and probably have already have 100+ creeps this year alone. If you wish to approach women personally it must be in a somewhat recreational setting since you sound like an average looking man
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There was nobody else at the store and it was like a little local shop in the corner.
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Unfortunately that makes no difference
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I disagree.
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Hmm that's fair, I am speaking strictly from the perspective of a fat westerner
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Don't be fat? Just say yes to vegetables and fruits
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I like to eat more than I care about living Sar, as long as I can pick up women like a caveman I don't care about how I look
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OUT!
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I would also like to add that don't try this advice if you are fat and not going for fat chicks. You kind of lost 80% of the battle already if you are more than one category higher in weight than the foid in the BMI chart categories.
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