Night owls. People who prefer to stay up at night until late. Are they real? From a quick research it seems there ain't much controversy to the idea of people who just naturally prefer the dark of night and it's not a new concept either.
Many things can affect your sleep schedule, like a bad diet, a sedentary lifestyle, too much screentime, and on... and a bad sleep schedule can affect many things about you.
But for me? I can't quite recall a single time in my life where sleeping wasn't a problem. Sometimes to a lesser extent, sometimes to a major extent. I don't recall much from when I was a kid, but one thing I'm aware of is that even before the invention of modern day computers and celphones, I had trouble waking up early, going to sleep at ''normal'' times and a general lack of energy during the day and excess of energy during the night. It's actually so ridiculous it's funny, I can spend an entire day feeling like I can drop dead from sleepiness at any moment, but comes midnight and all my sleepiness goes away.
During highschool, most students from my class didn't like waking up early, but they didn't have much trouble with it. It was more of an annoyance than anything. Meanwhile every day for me felt like an herculean task, felt like dragging my body throughout my house and into school. It's funny, as I write this I remember a day a classmate came to school completely hangover, and the state she was in was kinda how I felt every day (but less r-slurred).
And it didn't really get better as the hours went by, if anything it was WORSE. I had school from 7AM to 1PM, but during thursdays it was from 7AM to 5PM. Those days, during the last class, I'd be so tired I'd have to consciously try to keep myself awake. But that's not all, I would get home at around 6PM and sleep from 6PM to 12AM, obviously missing class on friday. So I had a choice: either skip thursday afternoon classes or skip friday classes. I was physically incapable of attending both.
But why am I writing all this shit?
Recently I tried to 'fix' my schedule. I was going to sleep at around 4 or 5AM and waking up anywhere from 12AM to 4PM. So yesterday I woke up early and stayed awake the whole day. Went to sleep at 12AM, only to wake up at 4AM and feel like a walking corpse. I was frustrated and obviously tired as frick so I slept from 8AM to about 3PM. I've been thinking about this and researching as much as I can about sleep cycles and nocturnal people, though researching this stuff is kinda aids.
Right now I'm thinking of saying screw it. Trying to fix in 'normal' hours feels like trying to force a cube into the ball hole.
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1 love sleep, but 1 kinda hate going too bed because it means 1 need too wake up tomorrow
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Me when I wake up and realize I didn't die in my sleep

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I work third
shift and feel like this all the time: 
Money's good though
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I have to maintain a relatively normal sleep schedule because of my day job but outside of work I play guitar and write music and I find it a lot easier to be creative at night. I go to bed around ~10:30 pm and wake up at 7 am but I always notice I get the most ideas for songs around 10 pm, so it's basically a choice between screwing up my sleep schedule and trying to be creative at a time when it doesn't really flow that well
I used to function just fine on 4 hours of sleep but it's not really working anymore for me
I love early mornings though, when it's still quiet out but you can watch the sun rise and slowly sense life around you coming alive.
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I feel you and I agree. But I like it from the angle of someone who is about to go to sleep, not someone who just woke up. In fact, the effect it has is inversely proportional. I also have a nice balcony with a great view of the sunrise.
On the creative part, during my quick research I read it more than once that there is a correlation between night owls and creativity (and intelligence in general but i hate this kind of shit science)
Edit: here's a snippet from chatGPT
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I think sleeping from about 1 pm to like 8 pm would be ideal because then you get the benefit of both night and morning, and afternoons are my least favorite time of day anyways.
And I heard about the creativity thing too. I imagine the serenity of nighttime helps you feel less... rational I guess? Not to get all kooky but there is a certain mysticism to the night and I think it just helps to let ideas flow without being so self-conscious about what works and what doesn't. Being tired from the day might also help.
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Honestly It will vary from person to person. As an example, from what I've read it seems my 7AM to 3PM is already on the severe end of the night owl spectrum, so 1PM to 8PM would be an even more extreme case. Pretty much a complete flip. Not that I think that's inherently a bad thing, whatever time you choose will have benefits and downsides, even for 'normal' sleep schedules
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Yeah, I don't know how feasible it really would be. I just wanna sleep through the bullshit
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Feel u bro I've been going to bed around 4-8am waking up around 2-4pm. I've been trying to make a change so I can go outside and make friends IRL, but it just doesn't work. Thinking of giving up and just trying to expand my terminally online friend group.
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It's pretty
good when the group
is whole but they always dissolve at some point
and it gets a bit rough being alone
during the friend
group
between-times until you find another 
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Yeah I mean I mostly hang out with like a single dude I met in an MMO like 15 years ago. It used to be a huge group but it dwendled until it's this. I've been doing Spanish-English language exchange and sort of ish made friends from that. But I low-key think the girl I talk to the most is trying to groom me into being her sugar daddy. So it isn't really vibing with me tbh. Maybe I should start playing MMOs again and join a guild.
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we are here to help you <3 try physical activity
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Thanks!. I work out 3x week. Honestly my problem is that I have a list of things I wanna get done by the end of the day and the end of the day for me is when I go to bed. So I'll often procrastinate throughout the day and then get into an autism grind mode and to finish everything.
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God loves you as you are <3 What you need to do is accept yourself, before you improve
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I work alternating 3 12hr shifts and 4 12hr shifts. I started on days but do nights now. Ive always gone to bed late (12am-2am). I worked the morning shift and the tradeoff for me as a night owl is i can go to bed easier at 730am vs 11pm but there definitely is a hormonal/mood benefit to dayshift hours that i counter on nightshift with lots of exercise and supplements. Its winter so the sunlight sucks anyway but i think ill try dayshift again in summer.
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