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He ended America's longest war.

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That was Trump sweaty.

Biden just kept his policies in place when he left office.

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Trump could have ended it, but didn't.

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:marseyakshually: DDR continued Obama's policy of saying he was going to end the war and then not ending the war. And here's why that's a good thing...

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This is actually true. One of my deployments was with USFOR-A when shit was winding down there, they kept reducing then boots on ground numbers to make the media say the war was concluding while at the same time filling the gap with contractors as best they could. That and "turning things over" (abandoning shit) to the Afghan forces. But the media would report

"more troops pull out of Afghanistan as they turn control over to the Afghan government :marseyreportercnn:" and Redditoids would be like "great, we can stop colonizing Afghanistan with our white supremacist Army" while the educated Afghans were like "pls don't leave us"

All anyone in DC ever gives a shit about is optics.

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Trump signed the order to withdraw from Afghanistan, which was planned to start six months later during Biden's term.

:#marseycrayoneaterpat:

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Nigrix, that's meaningless. It was already happening since Obongo, the retrograde was already going on in 2012.

But sure, he "ended it". Regardless, no president should get credit for anything regarding Afghanistan in the first place, since it was a 8 trillion dollar clusterfrick from top to bottom. They served more to place political constraints on the operation "you can't have more than 10k BOG troops in theater", because the Pentagon had already determined how they wanted to construct their shit sandwich without the input of the useless as tits on a boar hog political appointees (with the exception of Jim Mattis and a few others).

On the other hand, the clusterfrick wasn't really Orange Man's fault, either

And yes, I'm a proud r-slur because I hung around for it.

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Better to authorize the actual ending than to prolong it.

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Yeah, that's called leaving a shitshow for the next shift to deal with.

Ever wonder why DDR couldn't manage to pull out in four years?

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So Drumpf purposefully lost in 2020 so he could let Biden deal with Afghanistan?

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Bad bait.

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:femceltalking#!:

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YWABACJ

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A circlejerker, cisjew, or chudjigaboo?

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ChudJak

It's a chudjak in a wig puffing up its cheeks

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Neighbor when's the last time you reached out to your family. You should.

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That shit was over in 2013-13 with the Retrograde under OBAMMY

They effectuvely halted combat operations (which is what allowed Terry Taliban to dig up his buried AK-47 and get back into politics)

There is no American president within the last 30 years that has utilized the Armed Forces in a way that I would say isn't r-slurred.

I wish we could just get Eisenhower back, unfortunately we only get two choices. Globohomo option 1 and Globohomo option 2

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