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To save our democracy, we must get rid of online anonymity :!marseyglow:

https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/technology/4959447-social-media-id-verification/

As the presidential election approaches, a Pew Research survey this year found that "about two-thirds of Americans say they think social media is bad for democracy." A similar Pew survey reports that about 70 percent of Americans believe social media makes people "less civil in how they talk about politics."

Baked into our continuous scrolls and clicks, social media has inadvertently fostered the rise of anonymous human bad actors along with "bot farms" --- that is, networks of fake accounts. These bot brigades are frequently operated by foreign governments, including RussiaIran and China, in order to impersonate Americans and interfere in elections. They deliberately spread misinformation, sow groomercord and poison the well of civil discourse. Russian operatives recently bragged that social media companies detect only 1 percent of their fake accounts.

How do we balance protecting a user's privacy while holding them accountable for actions violating the law or a site's Terms of Service? How do we eliminate anonymously boosted content from all originators and the manipulation of our opinions? How do we protect the rights of free speech by nurturing civil discourse among real people? That's the backbone of democracy.

There certainly are many circumstances where anonymity must be protected, as for whistleblowers, journ*listic sources, political dissidents and others speaking truth to power. But when it comes to social networking, anonymity creates far more problems than it solves.

Online platforms that market themselves as anonymous, such as 8kun (formerly 8chan), have enabled their users to engage in violent and sometimes illegal activities without fear of consequences. Similar dynamics play out on the larger mainstream networks like Facebook and X, where countless anonymous accounts routinely wreak havoc.

How do we solve this puzzle? It's time for a non-tracking user ID verification system, requiring social media platforms to verify the true identities of their users.

Previously, I have been outspoken against verification systems. A decade ago, as a steering committee member of the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace and the Identity Ecosystem Steering Group, I fought against the proposed "national identity system." It was, I believed at the time, a violation of the individual right to privacy.

Fast-forward to today, however, and user ID verification has become a necessity. True verification is the only viable way for a social media platform to avoid the onslaught of bots, trolls and manipulative human forces hiding behind the curtain of anonymity. The present and future of democracy is at stake.

It's also the only way to protect kids. According to the U.S. Surgeon General's national advisory in 2023, "nearly 40 percent of children ages 8--12 use social media." At the same time, adults can pretend to be kids to deceitfully interact with them.

Here's the reality check: Our personally identifiable data is already out there. It's in the hands of marketing companies, data brokers, the dark web and governments worldwide. It's time to end the charade and acknowledge that our human and digital identities are known. We should leverage this data constructively, while vigorously protecting our privacy as much as possible.

The ideal user ID system has the sole purpose of verifying legitimate users. It won't track or monitor, and won't collect user data beyond the minimum necessary for verification. The system needs to work not just for users on our shores but for users worldwide. It can be supported by exceptional AI cowtools.

The movement toward user ID verification is gaining legislative traction. Last year, a bipartisan group of senators introduced the Protecting Kids on Social Media Act. If passed, this federal bill would require social media platforms to verify the age of account holders. In September, California Gov. Gavin Newsome signed a bill requiring social media companies verify users' ages. Several states have introduced similar laws, although many face challenges in court.

Momentum is also building abroad. Australia announced plans in September to implement mandatory user ID verification to prevent young children from joining social media.

Social media companies aren't going to do this voluntarily; federal legislation is required. Instead of relying exclusively on government-controlled verification processes, an alternative is for social media companies to partner with a vendor or create their own verification systems. Of note, a handful of independent companies already provide user verification for financial services and other industries.

No solution is perfect, but in weighing the benefits versus the risks, user ID verification is the best option we have. It will give social media platforms the upper hand in the battle against bad actors creating fake accounts online to disrupt the genuine communication of real human beings.

Kids win, democracy wins, and anonymity is the loser — RIP.

!nooticers

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ID to shitpost but not to vote :marseyemojilaugh:

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:#marseyxd:

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!chuds !nooticers this says it all right here. Can't require Social Security cards and bills, or a valid ID to vote, gotta make sure the kids cant get exposed to any based ideaologies though.

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Shitvoting is the future

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>BIPOC

The streak will continue

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Zoomer take.

Some of us have been shit voting for multiple decades :marseyboomer:

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i support this because itll be like the old days of the usenet where you had your real name everywhere but said slurs anyway

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You should be gased the way Jews supposedly were.

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>DemonKKKraps win and enact full-blown China-esque forced doxxing and id verification for internet use, enacting total chud death and mass-doxxing and firing of 4chud and boomerbook chudoids for wrongthonk

>ReTHUGliKKKans win the next election and instead of getting rid of this legistlation, they double down on the Chinamaxxing and this time use it for their own benefit, and now ledditors and DemonKKKraps get doxxed, harassed, fired, and stalked en-masse by pissed off chuds who want revenge

:#letsfuckinggofast: !accelerationists !chuds

THE LEFT GETS DOXXED, THE RIGHT GETS DOXXED, EVERYONE GETS DOXXED, ANONYMITY IS OUTDATED, GET USED TO IT

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(not joking, this "leftoids enact draconian third world shithole laws only for rightoids to later use the same laws against them" does has past precedents, see Hungary, Russia, and Belarus, of Far-Rightoids using Soviet-era censorship laws and spying apparatus despite them no longer being commies)

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Both resmuglicans and democrats should get slaughtered in a camp to pave the way for tnd

not joking, this "leftoids enact draconian third world shithole laws only for rightoids to later use the same laws against them" does has past precedents, see Hungary, Russia, and Belarus, of Far-Rightoids using Soviet-era censorship laws and spying apparatus despite them no longer being commies

First worlders have been too comfy with the freedom they have. Maybe they should be sent to a north Korean camp to work for the Kim family for scraps :marseyreapcrying:

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:#ciaglowtalking:

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I look like this I glow like this

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(not joking, this "leftoids enact draconian third world shithole laws only for rightoids to later use the same laws against them" does has past precedents, see Hungary, Russia, and Belarus, of Far-Rightoids using Soviet-era censorship laws and spying apparatus despite them no longer being commies)

Legislation thru EO instead of Congress has already made this a thing in the USA.

Libs think the FDA, EPA, ect will always do the heckin right thing

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Oh ffs, you really want Congress to have to pass a law to determine how much of a pollutant is allowed in the water? You're willing to wait 10-20 years for that to get done? Maybe the executive branch oversteps their authority sometimes but it's a heck of a lot better than Congress just doing nothing.

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Lolbertarians unironically want that to be the case.

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Most of the ones over 35 aren't that dumb and hate the New Hampshire Libertarian types.

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No, government vermin don't give a shit about the right thing

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the legislation has bipartisan :marseyyesandnosuperspeed: support, so it doesn't even matter :marseyladybugkneelsalute: which party :marseypirate2: wins.

the only hope is that it will take years to implement and whatever :marseyjerkofffrown: system :marseymars: they do pass will be easily bypassed.

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This is a good idea I'm going to start

My name is Christopher Krommelz, I live in Schliemannstraße 26, 10437 Berlin, Hinterhaus floor 3 second door from the left. I'm 32 years old, currently doing a 2nd postdoc at BIMSB Berlin with Markus Landthaler, in a 3 year relationship. My parents are called Frank and Sabine Krommelz, currently living in Potsdam, retired.

!metashit join me NOW in the fight against internet anonymity. Together we can make the internet a safer, more welcoming place for EVERYONE. Drop your real life info below :marseykneel:

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WTF in the :marseyglow: is this comment???

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Delete this NOW

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@BuffaloBills97 you can foward this information to your lawyer!

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but that's my name

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Names are non unique identifiers.

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Unironically what Democrats want.

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Unironically what I want too, can't wait to learn all y'all's names

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Mine is John Jay Jameson

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Really? :marseyshook:

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lol no

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:marseydisintegrate:

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Mine is Bob Smith besties

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I mean, death threats, deepfake porn, and goading people into unaliving themselves is distasteful stuff, but when you're talking about threatening to reveal a man's reddit username? That crosses a line.

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:marseyyesandnosuperspeed:

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Anybody that would potential kill themselves because of pixels on a screen should actually kill themselves.

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When u think about it, anonymously goading people into killing themselves is basically a public service, and should be commended. If anything, we should find the real names of these quiet heroes, so that a grateful nation can celebrate their contributions in public.

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:#marseydoingmypart:

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Be the change you want to see in the world :marseyfsjal:

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Sweaty you do understand that we're online right?

It's not a phsyical place.

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My name is Joe Biden :marseycool:

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(R)-slurs want this too tbh. The (((government))) hates online anonymity in general, maybe for different reasons.

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https://media.tenor.com/U1lg7l_ApgYAAAAx/ai.webp

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Same reason, neither of them want anyone to be able to say things they don't approve of. What they don't approve of is different, but the goal is just censorship.

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The blob has been angling to make this happen for some time now. Can't have little chuddies committing thoughtcrime on imageboards and boomerbook.

:chudspingenocide:

It's kinda already functionally in place now that it's impossible to make a mainstream email account without giving your phone number.

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It's funny how a technology that was supposed to be the most adopted federated standard became centralized and a means of surveillance for governments around the world, unless you use the government approved emails be it that they are hosted in russia, the us, or china.

And it has become so widespread that people think of email not in terms of having an account ina domain, but think of the companies that are the hosts themselves. Some people only think Gmail is the only mail service provider because it's what comes pre installed in their android phone for example. @IanMurdock thoughts

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I hate it so much. The thought crime movement simply couldn't work in the small, decentralized internet of yore. Computer illiterates have allowed the internet to be ruined while at the same time making it mandatory.

The death of anonymity on the internet is partially the fault of spammers, however. It's needlessly difficult to run properly anonymous websites because everything is constantly inundated with automated scams. All SEO spammers and the like should be imprisoned for their role ruining the internet. They are the reason you can't even use simple text websites without JavaScript, as CloudFlare and the like rely on it to detect automated bullshit

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"The internet isn't anonymous anymore... We tried to tell people that it was a bad idea, but we just didn't listen! We just kept on talking shit with no consequence" :#marseydoomer:

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You wouldnt understand. You're the age of a toddler, you never got experience true free speech.

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Unironically this is the problem, people under 30.have no clue what free speech used to be

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My mum tells me im "not always easy to understand" when i tell her to shut the frick up. Don't listen to the boomer chuds, the kids these days are alright :#marseyzoomer:

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The death of anonymity on the internet is partially the fault of spammers, however.

Well, directly, yes, but indirectly it's the simple flaw of popularity. If smartphones didn't have internet there'd be a lot less fish in the sea and so a lot less money to be made, which would make everything better.

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Some people only think Gmail is the only mail service provider because it's what comes pre installed in their android phone for example

I wanted to say 'noone would be this r-slurred' but then I remembered zoomer, boomers and millenials exist.

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You're a Xillenial? :marseygasp:

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No (I dont think so)

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Lol just buy a fake number online with a non existent email and then create the email with the phone number

Or just buy a burner :marseyantiwork2:

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!friendsofsphereserf Is he actually a glowie? :marseyshook:

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Where can you do that anonymously? Most payment options aren't anonymous

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Go to atm

Get out 100$

Go to casino

Bet 5$

Cash out remaining 95$

Go to Walmart

Buy 100text/100 min card for straight talk

Buy 15$ Kyocera flip phone

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Bold of you to assume I wouldn't win that $5 bet :platyrich:


We need trans hedgehogs! Trans hedgehogs belong here! We love trans hedgehogs!

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!slots100

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Is that too hide the reason for the withdrawal? :marseyreading: Because it would probably be better to just buy a home appliance

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Yeah but what if you win?

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Buy two home appliances :marseystars:

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Just buy a gift card from a gas station

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the funniest thing is that its basically true on insta, almost everyone uses a personal account there

and yet, they still chooodpost with no fear :marseyxd:

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>by Mark Weinstein

:marseyhmm:

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:marseysax: who can it BEEE now :marseysax:

:marseysax: who can it BEEE now :marseysax:

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I don't get it :marseysad:

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https://media.tenor.com/gYaVCa_x5P8AAAAx/jewish-family-guy.webp

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No? :marseysad:

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:marseybee: :marseybeewiggler:

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I still don't get it :marseysad:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1730574880380095.webp

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It's yt pipo fault

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((()))

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Have they seen Facebook? This just means that only retired old people :brainletmaga: will be able to speak their minds and the rest of us will have to be silent.


https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739271948y52utXmckBNkwg.webp

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That would be ideal for (((TPTB)))

It's a lot easier to psyop and social-engineer old people that have only tenuous connections to ground reality

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FWIW a shitton of those accounts are fake or simply bots.

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But the fact that I :soyjaktantrum: about them says a lot about boomers


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bomb every NSA and Interpol headquarter and maim every federal agent or something

Also the solution would be to ban all social media but everybody knows that social media are just an extension of the surveillance branch of whatever country they are hosted in

Open source now open source forever

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They've had this in Korea for a long time and yet Koreans online are the most psychotic of all. :marseythinkorino:

But of course we could never learn anything from their experience. We're not orientals like them.

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>To save our democracy, we must get rid of online anonymity

>By Mark Weinstein

>Weinstein

:#marseywrongthonk:

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When you substitute "democracy' with "self-interested spies and banksters running the country at their own will" it makes a LOT more sense FYI

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The federalist papers, the foundation for our "democracy", were written anonymously.


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Ah yes truth social MAGA boomers, great enjoyers of anonymity and op-sec

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They are? :marseyshook:

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heh, good thing i'm such a good hacker that i can remain anonymouse no matter hwat

:#marseyanon:

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Really?:marseyshook:

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>Heh what's wrong chud, if you have nothing to hide then what does it matter?

:#soyjakanimeglasses:

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I think !antifa should stop wearing masks

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i agree with this up until the point it's forced. why do birdbrains always assume they need to force their solutions on everyone else??

having an option where IDs are verified, provided by the govt which cannot violate the 1st amendment... could be incredibly useful.

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why do birdbrains always assume they need to force their solutions on everyone else??

Cause noone would want their shit otherwise

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https://media.tenor.com/CZZBe9YwcmYAAAAx/unacceptable-knight.webp

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It's times like these where I feel somewhat compelled to embrace the lolbert side…because I doubt any good could come from this… :marseysullen:

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Outside of the hoppean types, Libertarians are way too optimistic about human nature and democracy. Democracy is a form of slow-burn communism. No ideology that is against govt force can take over govt.

Libertarians are the capitalist* version of commies.

(*I don't say 'right-wing' because they love porn, weed, atheism, gay marriage, open borders etc)

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bipoctardrians are the most r-slurred people to grace earth. You can just support and rally for free speech and bombing surveillance agencies, but lolbertarians as they stand now are the most r-slurred people on earth imaginable. Supporting the right to grow your own poppy farm while having s*x orgies and defending your property with machines guns type of r-sluration

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Supporting the right to grow your own poppy farm while having s*x orgies and defending your property with machines guns type of r-sluration

oh no, that sounds horrible

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Baked into our continuous scrolls and clicks, social media has inadvertently fostered the rise of anonymous human bad actors along with "bot farms" --- that is, networks of fake accounts. These bot brigades are frequently operated by foreign governments, including Russia, Iran and China, in order to impersonate Americans and interfere in elections

But not our domestic one?

Funny that

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I mean, maybe, but what would an American bot farm be posting? There's no real point in trying to sway public opinion in an authoritarian state.

Israel does it, sure, for obvious reasons, but I can't imagine the US Government itself has much use for that sort of bot farm. Political parties, sure. Targeted cyberwarfare, absolutely. But just "let's post on VK and undermine Putin"? Nah.

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They deliberately spread misinformation, sow groomercord...

I had forgotten that "groomercord" was an actual word.

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>Here's the reality check: Our personally identifiable data is already out there. It's in the hands of marketing companies, data brokers, the dark web and governments worldwide.

! Nooticers is this true? :marseyshook:

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What do you mean

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Is what the article said true? :marseysad:

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What did they say :marseyconfused:

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That everyone's identities is already known by shady third party actors so it's not a big deal to need an ID :marseysad:

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It would be cool if everyone wasn't anonymous but kept doing the same things as before. Let's make it happen. Y'all first


Putting the :e: in spookie turkey merry new year donkey

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I unironically agree with that.

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>Weinstein

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insert that one comic about anti free speech bills being wrapped in either "national security" or "protect the children" paper

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