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What does that mean? I did my job? :marseyconfused:

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Supervisor > President :marseyemojilaugh:

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I'm selling my Tesla!

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WTF They're not allowed to do that!

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You're not my boss!

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"I manage processes for Health and Human Services"

"Cap? Whatca you mean like Fortnite chug jugs shieeet"

"I send polite reminders over emails to NGOs that work with drag queens across America"

"That's not bussin for real, imma be real withchu dog ya butt is fired 💀💀"

:marseysoylentgrin: :!pepezoomerhair:

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The fact this comment isn't pinned to the top shows that @misterwigger died taking a :crap:

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Failure to respond will be taken as a resignation.

I'm not sure why Elon keeps posting shit that makes lawyers wet on Twitter.

Non-probationary can only be fired for cause. Not replying to an email might be sufficient grounds but he has to go though MSPB, if he doesn't like that he needs to get congress to change the law.

Realistically they are going to be getting payouts that are significantly larger than any savings he claims.

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Elon is going to get every federal employee to say what they did and it will compile into a single database, thereby automatically creating TS-level data by aggregation of unclassified data. He's going to repeat what Hillary did by generating classified information without even trying.

!glowies !fedposters

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I wonder when JAB approved Grok.

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DOD is already pooping rocks about people being able to use AI to design simple nuclear weapons. The difficulty is obtaining refined fissile material and shaping it to perfection without setting off a criticality event.

As of 5 years ago you can evade any AI safety protocols for chemical weapon recipes by using the UIPAC names.

Heck they were already scared about CRISPR, now cross that over with AI.

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The emails say you should send it to your manager not to the DOGE email. Any intra agency protocol for communication would still apply.

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Nope. All the screenies say that you reply directly to Elon and then CC your boss. And we already know these OPM emails are his personal server.

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Fair enough

Apparently a couple agencies have said not to reply to the email probably for this reason

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Oh yeah, you have no clue what it's going to be used for. What's funny is Elon said on Twitter that you'd be resigned if you didn't respond, but didn't include that part in the email.

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The Elon special, immediately tweeting something after coming up with an idea on the potty without thinking about it for longer than a minute :marseyretardchad:

Reminds me of my autismo boss

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I mean, did they not all agree to follow all reasonable management requests when they signed up?

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Non-probationary can only be fired for cause.

They're not getting fired

They're resigning :marseyxd:

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This is why people who are not giant r-slurs run this shit through lawyers. I know Elon and Daddy think that's the way this works but it isn't, even with at will that would be considered firing.

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:tay#smart:

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Trump would love a lawsuit over civil servant statutes. If you fully drink Unitary Executive Theory (like a majority of the Supreme Court) any attempt by Congress to impede the President's firing ability is a violation of the Constitution.

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idk. vested executive power means power to execute the law. if the law says you can't fire someone without a "just cause" then idk how using "executive power" to override the law ur supposed to be executing makes any sense.

trying to override this with "taking care" also doesn't make sense either. how can one "faithfully" override a law in order ensure it's "faithfully" executed.

literally philosophical garbage

#god

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Presidents have argued that the Take Care Clause empowers them to ignore unconstitutional laws. If the President was supposed to have the Constitutional power to fire any federal employee (which is part of the Unitary Executive Theory). It is the President's duty to take care that the Constitution is faithfully followed and and ignore civil servant statutes.

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the constitution doesn't mention a power to remove people from office at all.

i don't see how a president can be "taking care" to ensure laws are followed faithfully if he just ignores lawfully defined firing criteria. if there was a lawful reason, he should be able to demonstrate it in court.

this is literally just sophistic garbage from unamerican dimwits

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Are you an American, because you do not know Constitutional law well. "the executive power of the government- i, e., the general administrative control of those executing the laws, including the power of appointment and removal of executive officers-a conclusion confirmed by his obligation to take care that the laws be faithfully executed" Myers v. United States, 272 U.S. 52, 164, 47 S. Ct. 21, 41, 71 L. Ed. 160 (1926). The Removal power comes from three main places, the Appointments clause, the Executive clause, and the Take Care Clause.

The highest law is the constitution, a statute that violates the Constitution, violates the law. Republican legal scholars have always claimed that the President has a constitutional duty to ignore unconstitutional laws. Some legal scholars agree (see https://irp.fas.org/agency/doj/olc110294.html).

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i've read the constitution. it doesn't actually specifically grant a power to remove, it only mentions execute, and appoint (with advice/consent)

i get that certain lawyers, including some supreme court justices can't read all that well, but the constitution only mentions a power to execute laws as stated, and specifically states that appointments are defined by congressional law. that includes the bounds and constraints of the appointments, including when they can be removed early ... which is not just because a newly elected official dislikes them.

trying to convolute "take care that laws are executed faithfully" into "he can exercise removal power not actually specifically granted by the law, or even the constitution"... is as stupid as trying to claim that me locally growing weed for personal consumption falls under the purview of "interstate commerce", when it is literally not interstate, nor even commerce.

i'm really fricking tired of living on a clown planet.

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Well, your opinion does not carry much legal precedent as you are just a singular r-slur. Your opinions count for very little in this world and will never carry any effect on anyone's life. The decision of the First Congress in 1789 heavily implied the President had removal power (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_of_1789). The Supreme Court since 1928 has officially stated this is so (Myers v. US). This is not the opinion of "some supreme court justices" this has been the opinion of all modern supreme court justices. If the President has the "Executive Power", what executive do you know that can not fire an employee?

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Well, your opinion does not carry much legal precedent as you are just a singular r-slur

the fact u even think u need to point that out is indicative of internalized philosophically dishonesty, u have little respect for actual inherent truth or coherency ... or why the frick else would ur dumbass bring that up???

This is not the opinion of "some supreme court justices" this has been the opinion of all modern supreme court justices

i get that most lawyers can't read all that well, nor can u if u think executing the law means one can just ignore the removal criterial for appointments as defined by law. the fact i need to state this is clown planet level criteria. the exceptions upon exception defined by the supreme court is literally just fricking r-slurred nonsense from people who don't have the heart to judge honestly.

frick u and frick everything u ever stood for.

what executive do you know that can not fire an employee?

he's not a god darn corporate ceo u r-slurred moron, he's an officer bound to execute the law, not whatever the frick shareholder's will is. he doesn't even fricking employ them u moron, he appoints officials into terms who are then employed by the govt under conditions of those terms.

the nation isn't a fricking a corporation, it demands a heck of a lot more stability. we don't have competitors sitting around to catch the slack when it fails to promote stability.

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Frick you! Shut up libtard! Downmarseyd. Firing and downmarseying libtards is just common sense and plainly constitutional. You're not entitled to my tax dollars or dramacoin!

!project2025 :#marseymagahat:

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congress is... it's literally stated right there in constitution

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YEEEEE HAAAAAW THIS ERE IS MAGA C*NTY, YOU LIBEROULS BEST REMEMBER!


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The only member of SCOTUS who supports this view is Thomas.

All laws congress passes are assumed constitutional until a court rules them otherwise. If POTUS can ignore laws then there is no separation of powers and congress dont have any role.

This is like saying that congress can override commands POTUS gives to the military.

Most of the federal government are not executive officers. Trump's bands of r-slurs keep trying to argue that point but it's been ruled on before, there is a distinction between civil service and executive officers.

The only clear executive officers are cabinet members and SCOTUS justices. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about federal employees being employed by congress.

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Read Seila Law and SEC v. Jarkesy, Thomas and Gorsuch are totally behind Unitary Executive Theory. Roberts basically is for it but won't say it honestly. Alito and Kavaungh also seem less gun-ho but would probably support it in most situations due to their general Conservative principles. Looking at West Virginia v. EPA, I think ACB may be the least pro Unitary Executive Theory Conservative Justice. Also if you read those cases you'll learn that there's a whole bunch of people considered Executive Officers, and there are Principal officers and lesser officers.

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Let's take it for granted that the president somehow doesn't have the power to fire federal employees (even though he has the power to employ them.)

Okay.

Trump immediately creates duplicate institutions of every single US federal agency. Let's helpfully call them the X departments. They have identical jurisdictions written into their charters of the departments they shadow. Nothing in the Constitution says you can't have federal agencies with overlapping duties.

But according to you, a succeeding Democratic president would have no power to fire them, because the civil service is above scrutiny.

And don't say 'muh bad faith'. Your opinion on the executive powers is regarded. The power to hire is the power to fire. Why else would it be otherwise?

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Nothing in the Constitution says you can't have federal agencies with overlapping duties.

actually he can't create any appointments unless allowed by law, so unless the law says he can create duplicates, he cannot...

and he certainly can't appoint to those duplicates without the advice and consent of the senate, unless otherwise stated by law, which the law certainly doesn't allow for these agencies u allege he can duplicate...

both of these are very clearly stated in the constitution.

have u even read the constitution? it's not actually that long. i recommend reading it over once or twice before trying to form opinions on it.

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the executive branch intentionally isn't supposed to have much decision making power

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That's why they put the Legislature in first, so they can make decisions based on the elected representative of the several States to form our laws and establish our budgets.

The President executes on the budget and makes sure the departments created by Congress deliver what they were meant to do.

The Judiciary makes sure everyone is adhering to the constitution.

This isn't rocket surgery.

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Yeah that's the point. /u/Icy_Paramedic778 The American people rejected your employment at the ballot box. I love Democracy! :marseysaluteusa: :marseyemojilaugh:

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To the privileged fed worker, accountability feels like oppression

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It is kinda funny seeing federal employees get fricked with so much

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I have an engineer friend who worked managing traffic control for the gov and they automated the entire process with scripting languages that normally required humans and said they sat around fricking around online all day

There was no one above them to notice

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thats normal IT shit lol

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Get a government job bro it'll be super chill

:#derpsnickering: :#marseyclueless:

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I'm a contractor and I have to send a Weekly Action Report every week saying what I worked on. I'm not sure why fednews is chimping out so much over this (I mean they always are, but still)

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As much as Musk is being a tard, it reminds me of teachers pissing and pooping because of those rightoid states requiring they have their lesson plans available to parents online.

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Yeah, just any basic, minimal form of accountability sends them into absolute hysterics. California Teachers' Union is famous for this type of shit:

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They were mainly moaning about the "increased" workload which never made sense because they always constantly wailed about all the time they spend outside of the classroom on lesson plans. I assumed half of them already did this with all these online grade-communication systems that already exist.

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lol i bill my time by the quarter hour, they just have to say what they did during 1 week

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How can you not see what the problem is?

What you're talking about is an action requested by your supervisor as part of your job duties. If Elon isn't your boss, why should you have to listen to his orders?

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:marseyno: No, that's not it chud

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Just like the layoffs everything is being routed through the agency heads. This fact keeps confusing people so they keep calling it illegal.

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That's the thing, it isn't. It's being sent directly from OPM.

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Elon IS my boss, chud.

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Cuz he was appointed by the head of the executive branch?

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He's working as a senior advisor and as an SGE, special government employee.

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They absolutely deserve this torture. Working with civ feds 8 times out of ten is a pain in the butt

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Benjamin Franklin, Information to Those Who Would Remove to America:

Of civil Offices or Employments there are few; no superfluous Ones as in Europe; and it is a Rule establish'd in some of the States, that no Office should be so profitable as to make it desirable. The 36 Article of the Constitution of Pensilvania, runs expresly in these Words: As every Freeman, to preserve his Independence, (if he has not a sufficient Estate) ought to have some Profession, Calling, Trade or Farm, whereby he may honestly subsist, there can be no Necessity for, nor Use in, establishing Offices of Profit; the usual Effects of which are Dependance and Servility, unbecoming Freemen, in the Possessors and Expectants; Faction, Contention, Corruption, and Disorder among the People. Wherefore whenever an Office, thro' Increase of Fees or otherwise, becomes so profitable as to occasion many to apply for it, the Profits ought to be lessened by the Legislature.

These Ideas prevailing more or less in all the United States, it cannot be worth any Man's while, who has a means of Living at home, to expatriate himself in hopes of obtaining a profitable civil Office in America; ... If he has any useful Art, he is welcome; and if he exercises it & behaves well, he will be respected by all that know him; but a mere Man of Quality, who on that Account wants to live upon the Public, by some Officer or Salary, will be despis'd and disregarded.

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What an butthole :marseyxd:

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Literally that office space scene. What would you say, ya do did here

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It immediately came to mind.

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oh boy!! !CHUDS @HailVictory1776 is NOT gonna like this

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Rip to our favorite park ranger :marseylibations:

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national Park jannies have Ancient ways of knowing (how to unlock bathrooms), chud

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There's 50 unmarked keys on a chain. You only learn what each one does after 25yrs of picking up bison shit

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he is a park ranger?! He made it sound like he is a high-level member of the DOJ!!

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Squirrel janny

:marseyitsnuts2: :marseyjanny:

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Don't punch the wall, that will hurt. Put a thin, hardback book under a pillow or a squishy blanket and beat the heck out of that. You'll get the satisfaction of feeling the feedback of hitting something hard, without hurting too bad.

Just don't break a tooth doing it if you're a grinder like me.

/u/BenNHairy420 consider if someone who has a special sperg out recipe is really the type of person who should be arguing that Fed workers are not hothouse flowers who wilt whenever they have to approach standards of private sector work .Have you considered a career in dogwalking instead?

No trans lives matter

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@HailVictory1776 lol i told you that you'd be at a computer justifying your job.

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federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to understand what they got done last week.

This smells like an Indian wrote it

Trans lives matter

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Tell me about some times you did the needful during the last week.

:chadindianheadsettalking!#:


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I used to have classified work at NASA, if you can't explain what you did in an unclassified manner you're just making an excuse for doing nothing

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I literally do this every week. Dont know very many federal contracts that don't have a reporting requirement.

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Both sides are incredibly r-slurred here

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"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

Snapshots:

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