Why is this in the politics hole?
Because vaccines are political chud.
Suddenly all redditors become experts in the field of organ transplantation and realize that giving a heart to a dying child is ethically wrong even if there is nobody else on the list and the child is unvaccinated.
The medical field says vaccines must be given as the child is at risk of getting diseases without the vaccines that make the heart transplant useless, conspiracytards respond that the covid vaccine has already been proven to cause heart issues in the first place as a side effect so makes no sense to require covid vaxx to get a heart transplant, my personal non expert opinion says that not having a vaccine increases your chances of getting a disease, but it does not guarantee it, and if the heart is the difference between life or death, then the child has every right to it as long as there is no else on the list before her who needs it more.
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Hospital admits that vaccines increase the likelihood of a successful organ transplant. Which I believe should lead to the child still getting the transplant if nobody else needs the heart more at the moment.
https://www.cincinnatichildrens.org/news/release/2025/transplant-statement
Because children who receive a transplant will be immunosuppressed for the rest of their life, vaccines play a critical role in preventing or reducing the risk of life-threatening infections, especially in the first year. These decisions involve discussion between our providers and the patient's family.
Organs can stay alive for a few weeks after a person is dead, which means if the girl is the only person around who needs a heart in that time frame, then it makes sense to give it to her even if she is unvaccinated. Not a single redditor appears to have noticed this or mentioned it and all have decided the child is meant to die now.
A deceased organ donor is kept on a ventilator after she/he has been declared brain-dead. They will remain on the ventilator until necessary approvals are taken and the organs can be retrieved. A Brain stem Dead person's organs may stay alive for a period of time that may range from a few days to a few weeks.
As far as I can tell ( I might be completely wrong somebody confirm for me ) if you refuse the covid vaccine, you will not be allowed to get an organ transplant, even if nobody else needs that organ at the moment. So they would rather throw an organ in the trash rather than allow it access to an unvaccinated person.
In adult recipients, the median survival time is 9.4 years, in comparison with 2.4 years among patients awaiting a heart. In pediatric recipients, the median survival time is 12.8 years. Overall, heart transplantation has added approximately 270,000 life-years (mean, 4.9 yr/recipient)
This above statement is the only thing that to me somewhat explains why doctors are not willing to expend much time trying to save unvaccinated organ transplant patients. The survival years are already so low and organs available for donation are so low in number, but I still cannot ascertain why not just put the unvaccinated at the very back of the list and technically only able to get an organ after everybody vaccinated has gotten an organ. Even if the unvaccinated never receive an organ, it would show that there is no active discrimination or attempt to exclude people from the medical system altogether, simply a limitation of resources and focus on using them where they are most viable to work.
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Not letting people with authority do whatever with your children because they know better makes you evil.
Letting your 12 year old die to own the libs. Classic MAGA
They killed their daughter. Not the hospital by rejecting the transplantation request no matter if the organ is going to rot instead. The parents of the child are evil. Not the system that won't even make them eligible to be on the very back of the list if they don't get the vaccines.
So they're collecting money on GoFundMe despite not even being eligible for the operation? They will not be getting an exemption
One redditor gets the reasoning right but still doesn't question why non-vaccinated cannot be at minimum at the very back of the list for transplants.
I'm assuming it's because getting the body to accept an implant requires a lot of antibiotics and the patient would be weak and thus at much higher risk of death - potentially wasting the transplant when other people who will get the jab are just as in need.
One great mind of reddit theorizes that this is a 4D chess move by the parents to get rid of an adopted child.
They can either cause a massive fuss about their child being killed by vaccine mandates or the government taking their child away because of vaccine mandates.
The parents turn out to be r-slurred. Nobody really surprised.
Janeen claims that vaccines are unsafe, and also said they came to their decision after "the Holy Spirit put it on our hearts".
But what about just putting them at the very back of the transplant list? What's wrong with that.
Fair. If you're not going to take care of your body you don't deserve new organs. They are in short supply. Sorry not sorry.
A "doctor of reddit" Chimes in.
Doctor here. Pretty straightforward regarding transplants. One of the most scarce resources we have in medicine, so to be eligible, you HAVE to show you are willing to follow medical advice and protocols to maximize chances of success, because even then there is a good percentage that fail. You are on immunosuppressants for life, and any infection can be fatal. So yeah, vaccination has always been prerequisite
That makes sense, but factoring in that organs are so rare for transplantation and vaccinated people have a far higher likelihood of success, why don't we at least allow the unvaccinated to be at the very back of the list, as having an organ transplant with a 5% chance of success is still higher than the 0% chance of success when their organ fails?
Conclusion:
Redditors went insane in their echo chambers and will never be able to leave them. They are all brain wormed now and they will either be able to function in a Kamala world, or go insane and die out in a any other world.
An evil Republican may own a dozen s*x slaves to satisfy himself, but a good redditor will let an entire nation of women be r*ped as long as it is done in the name of "being on the right side of history and not letting white people harm (punish) minorities (male feminists from minority groups)".
!mottezans moral quandary for you. Should American medical system allow unvaccinated people on organ donation lists at the very back in case they ever run out of vaccinated people but there is still an organ around, or is it more ethical to perma ban all unvaccinated from the organ transplant list altogether and force them to get vaccinated to be on the list in any capacity? Note that organs are rare to acquire for transplantation, last only a few years, a decade if the person who received them is lucky, and being unvaccinated raises the chances of getting an infection and the transplant failing far faster than in the case of vaccinated individuals. The mortality rate may be 5X higher for unvaccinated patients who get an organ transplant compared to vaccinated individuals.
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"take that 12 year old!" seems to be the lib motto at this point. whether it be republican children getting killed for not getting the vax, foreign children they bomb or the children they r*pe in the basement
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Dennis Hastert, famous LIEberal wrasslin coach and congressman critter
Godbles
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12 years can't decide if they get vaccinated apparently, but they can decide their gender!
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These redditors goon to dead kids and then go, "heh, isnt the fact im gooning saying something about how evil and stupid and deserving of death YOU are?"
Name AND shame these guys
@Salvadore_Ally_Chud! I wanna @ em
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Just go to the reddit post I linked up top they are everywhere in the thread. You couldn't piss on your shoes without hitting one of them with how congregated these types are over there.
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Im lazy provide the usernames for me in the op
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I am lazy too boo.
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!remindme 1 month
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I will be messaging you on 14.03.2025, 11:48 UTC to remind you of this comment
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the internet will be banned by then
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To be fair in the US the elite are diddling kids irrespective of political leanings and Bush did invade the middle east. So I could maybe agree with you only for killing people for not getting the vaxx. The 2020s covid era echo chambers really fried their brains and they still haven't had a reality update to get past that since.
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well thats my point, they are practically identical to republicans politically but hide behind the "republicans want to turn gaza into a stripmall" or "republicans killed epstein and were okay with that" takes as if they didnt cheer on the bipartisan "bury all evidence of us fricking kids and then kill gazans" act of 2022
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Fair.
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