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Are hardcore BDSM practitioners mentally ill?

A recent discussion I had about AGP got me thinking about which fetishes cross the line into a psychological disorder and it occured to me that ever Masochist I've ever met has been self destructive outside of their BDSM shit and every sadist I've met has been sadistic outside of their s*x life too so idea that the whole thing is a LARP isn't very convincing to me.

Granted, I'm working with a small sample size but the one hardcore sadist I met IRL was a huge bully in his teen years who did all his "roleplay" with severely depressed chicks and also liked hurting people or watching them get hurt people for the heck of it outside of his s*x life and had other antisocial traits. He was also into the really extreme stuff like crying and bleeding.

I've met several women into it and unsurprisingly all of them had really low self esteem and depression.

I'm fully aware that a gossip site with a strong bullying subculture may be the wrong place to talk about this so feel free to call me an r-slured cute twink or something.

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Define "hardcore". I think kinky stuff in general is probably as old as time :marseyshrug: but the almost video gamey BDSM stuff where you have a bunch of rules and terms and stuff probably appeals more to a particular type of deviant

Still, to an extent it's pretty popular even among normies.

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Hardcore being the stuff where it's not just ropes or holding someone's arms down. That stuff is pretty normal I think because women live a man who can take control but generally when the emphasis shifts from dominance to suffering/humiliation and you get into shit like whipping and drinking piss and shit like that I feel like you get :marseytrain: tier psychosexual derangement.

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Define derangement

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Generally I'd say patterns of thought and patterns of behavior that end up bringing harm or suffering to the self (or other people in the case of personality disorders) and that can't be explained by underlying values or easily changed even if they end up being detrimental to the person.

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