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vegan_doggy_bottom 11mo ago#5527324
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Unfortunately urban fighting means close proximity to civilians, which inevitably results in them getting caught in the crossfire. Fallujah was basically a ghost town by the time the battle you linked started which is why the civilian casualties were so low. Unfortunately for the palestinoids Egypt refuses to accept refugees. And Israel sure as heck isn't going to let them in.
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There's no ideology but liberal democracy and Fukuyama is its prophet
vegan_doggy_bottom 11mo ago#5527671
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Their kdr against actual combatants in this war is something like 3.
This pretty clearly means attacker vs defender KIA. Civvie deaths are irrelevent for this metric.
As for your "examples"
Skill issue
I don't trust wiki numbers (1:7-15) at all here since they seem based on Iraq official figures only. But still likely more than 1:3
What the heck are you talking about???? Dude above was talking about civilian vs combatant casualties, which is in the 2-3:1 ratio for this war. If you're talking idf vs Hamas casualties then it's about 100:5000.
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That's pretty much the norm for urban combat.
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Says who
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Oh wow! You found a single battle with lower ratio. Guess conventional thinking is wrong!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mosul_(2016%E2%80%932017)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Fallujah
Unfortunately urban fighting means close proximity to civilians, which inevitably results in them getting caught in the crossfire. Fallujah was basically a ghost town by the time the battle you linked started which is why the civilian casualties were so low. Unfortunately for the palestinoids Egypt refuses to accept refugees. And Israel sure as heck isn't going to let them in.
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This pretty clearly means attacker vs defender KIA. Civvie deaths are irrelevent for this metric.
As for your "examples"
Skill issue
I don't trust wiki numbers (1:7-15) at all here since they seem based on Iraq official figures only. But still likely more than 1:3
1:7-10 kdr lol
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What the heck are you talking about???? Dude above was talking about civilian vs combatant casualties, which is in the 2-3:1 ratio for this war. If you're talking idf vs Hamas casualties then it's about 100:5000.
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Kd definitely is enemies to our own. Otherwise it's not a kd.
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What?
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English motherlover. Do you speak it?
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