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According to Wikipedia, Hamas :marseynoyouoccupy: has won almost every single :marseykiwimom: major :marseygaygeneral: battle :marseywhiteflag: within Gaza since the ground invasion :marseyufo: (lol they just removed the "results" tab)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_engagements_during_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war

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If they're winning so hard, why are they crying :marseysorrow: about genocide?

Lol they desperately want to be both victims and winners lmao

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Apparently Israeli soldiers abandoning the burnt out husk of a Gazan slum in order to go burn down another Gazan slum is somehow a Hamas victory. This is copium at truly superhuman levels.

:#marseyxd:

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I know that pro-Palestine people are delusional, but how is a less than 1:100 K/D a victory? It's not even like they stopped Israel from occupying Khan Younis, the IDF just eventually withdrew after a few weeks. That's basically how all of these "victories" work, the IDF withdraws after a while

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735577703hyD-pdQkLUOIIg.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1735577703pHQHE-ZYpqp2Wg.webp

PS: one of Israel's two deaths in the battle was from friendly fire

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"Establishment"

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If you kill your enemies, they win :marseyitsover:

Israel killing Hamas/Palestinians = total Palichad victory :taysmart:

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Look at the article lists. Wikipedia is now total garbage.

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>now

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It used to only mostly be garbage.

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Seems to be harping on stated military goals, if Israel says the goal is to wipe out Hamas and then withdraws leaving a militant outfit capable of at least decent defence then the stated military goal is a failure and Wikipedia gets to record it as such—in addition to the benefit of "controlling the field" after a battle.

The real politics here is the propaganda of what's considered "a battle". Seems the Palis and their supporters are themselves framing the battles which allows them to frame any victories the way they want. Heck it's probably less deliberate and more just downstream of media reporting of the war where all you get are Israeli announcements of operations, their success and their end while the on-ground constant content that's required for a 24/7 news cycle is only really produced by the Palestinian side.

Finally, a lot of these are tactical engagements like ambushes, not the operational level actions most famous "battles" are in most people's minds.

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>Finally, a lot of these are tactical engagements like ambushes, not the operational level actions most famous "battles" are in most people's minds.

That's like the entirety of the Bleeding Kansas Era in the lead up to the Civil War. In school they teach it like there were major conflicts raging all over, but if you look into it most of the battles were like 40 dudes taking pot shots at each other before one side ran away. I think there were only 26 casualties in a year or two.

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:marseycope#::marseyco#pe::marseycop#e:

Just as pathetic as :marseymutt: spinning Afghanistan and Vietnam, or lefties about the fall of :marseycommunist:

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There's nothing to "spin" about 'Stan or 'Nam, America won literally every fight and battle - as a war, it was won. It was lost politically and diplomatically, not militarily.

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tell me brother, why did they go to war?

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To kill foreigners, test and develop new technology and tactics, and keep our troops sharp and ready for action

!chuds know USA has never lost a war

Trans lives matter

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Who are "they"?

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usa

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So, still a :marseycope:. Don't get me wrong, the :marseymutt: absolutely stomped the Taliban (countless air strikes and rampages) and the VC (especially after the Tet Offensive), but were constrained by "rules of engagement", "Third World Order UN", and "Soviet psy-op anti-war protesters".

Inversely, you see :marseygigaretard: parrot feelgood narratives about :marseymutt: defeated by rice farmers (despite it was the Soviet and Chink-backed PAVN that did most of the fighting, along with foreign "advisors") or :marseymutt: defeated by goatfrickers (despite said goatfrickers being actual Paki psyops)

At the end of the day, :marseymutt: has managed to come out on top, with them being friends with the Viets today, people having collectively forgotten the Afghan fiasco because :angryvatnik: decided to be a absolute r-slur by invading Hoholstan, and Pakistan (being the South Asian inbred and extremist-infested basket case) being a good example of why Partition should never have happened and that the :marseybong: should have just executed the entire All-Zamindar Club All-India Muslim League in 1945

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At the end of the day, :marseymutt: has managed to come out on top, with them being friends with the Viets today

Absolutely, and this is generally my favorite dunk on the people you mentioned before re: "rice farmers": there's a McDonald's in Ho Chi Minh City, so, if we're not talking about military victory, you tell me, who really won here?

a good example of why Partition should never have happened and that the :marseybong: should have just executed the entire All-Zamindar Club All-India Muslim League in 1945

Eh, you either kill 'em all or cut them off and isolate them. The latter is a lot easier and a lot less upsetting to hand-wringing soys the world over. Unfortunately, as Turkey's case readily illustrates, you really can't educate the :soyjihadi: out of a Muslim.

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Wikipedians should be shot by Israel. In minecraft

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sam_hyde_answer.avi

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And when the people who edit these articles are done they open up Reddit and Twitter and complain that Wikipedia is biased against them.

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Lol they desperately want to be both victims and winners lmao

Wanting too be a victim while also not having enough humility/too much pride too actually play the part is a hallmark feature of Muslim, middle eastern, and Indian men

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Bait Idea: the IDF should just completely glass the frick out of Gaza, every square foot of it, then see it declared a Hamas victory on Wikipedia.

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It's a shame Hamas wasn't around in the ancient world. They could've defeated Macedon so no one would remember Alexander the Mediocre White Male Colonizer.

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Who are these people unironically

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somewhere there is an alt rdrama with leftoids "trolling" just like the fricking rightoids do here

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i'd love that but im afraid theyre probably just tard-brained wingcucks. chapocels could never!

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I may be home schooled, but I'm smart enough to see the evidence for the Jewish agenda in the MSM, Hollywood, government, etc...

Snapshots:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_engagements_during_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war:

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