המשבר נפתר: בישראל מאשרים באופן רשמי כי עסקת החטופים נחתמה
— ישראל היום (@IsraelHayomHeb) January 15, 2025
Israeli sources say that they have received heavy pressure by the incoming Trump administration to get these agreements signed. Many are unhappy as they say it was done more as a PR move than as a real resolution, as a similar hostage deal in 2011 had freed Yahya Sinwar, the until recently leader of Hamas, main guy behind the oct 7th attack, and they view this deal as just a re-hash of that same situation, with potentially deadly future implications. Others are happy as the current deal could also mean that other countries and allies from both sides can step in and secure peace, and a quicker new deal for the release of the remaining hostages
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trump brought peace to the middle east unironically.
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@sandkwinn
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wrong, it's a trap
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For who?
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palestinian people, allied nations, and the non genocidal population of the world
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Who are these "allied nations"?
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the ones calling israel out for genocide will be tempted to stop doing so and take the spotlight off their war crimes
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how am i ignoring Ireland? they're in that group Israel sees that the genocide case against them isn't going away, their soldiers are being imprisoned for war crimes while on vacation, etc, so they sign this deal in hopes everyone will say oh okay the genocide stopped everyone is innocent neow
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Wdym she's ignoring Ireland?
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But Palestinians and their allies are the genocidal population of the world?
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no?
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Yes?
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israelis openly call for arab genocide, are you calling them deceitful liars? that's an antisemitic trope you know
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well yeah obviously r-slur that why i put the word "temporary" in the title
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I don't understand why the incoming Trump administration has so much more influence than the existing Biden one. Can someone give a brief (and sincere) explanation?
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Democrats are kitties and cant or wont do shit.
Republicans are r-slurred and might bomb you on accident.
Appease republicans to keep them away.
Ignore democrats to keep them away.
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Its less to do with Republicans and more to do with Trump himself. Trump has always been a hard negotiator and he knows that he has vast bargaining power at his disposal as president so he doesn't play nice.
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You didn't answer the question.
What type of actual "shit" will Trump do that Biden wouldn't?
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That wasnt your question r-slur
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Yes it was, BIPOC cute twink.
You're just too ignorant to answer it with anything other than catchphrases.
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Nope
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Its the unpredictable ( r-slurred ) president strategy. It has been applied previously in US history although I wouldn't be able to recall the specific US president off the top of my head.
Basically with Biden Israel know where they stand. They do whatever they want, the US considers them too valuable a middle eastern ally to act against them.
Trump on the other hand isn't all in on historical US policy. The Israeli's don't get a 100% on where he stands. For all they know he is actually capable of bombing Israel, or breaking all ties with Israel, or starting a war over Greenland with Europe. That is, he is an unknown quantity, and when you have an unknown quantity as the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, you try to keep your head down for the next four years until he goes away because you don't know which face off will actually blow up in your face.
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"Walk softly and carry a big stick"
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The enemy loves peace the most when he doesn't know how little it would actually take to make you launch the most powerful army in the world at them.
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Teddy and Nixon are who you're thinking of. LBJ to a much lesser extent.
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Thanks fren.
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Libs are spineless kitties who do not believe in anything and will just say whatever is socially beneficial for them.
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I genuinely thought Trump was going to tell the Israelis, "kill 'em all, I don't care," so my only conclusion with this is that he viewed the continuing war as detrimental to US negotiating power. But I don't know at the end of the day
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over 30 palestinian criminals will be released from israeli prisons PER hostage in this deal, several of whom are convicted on murder or terrorism charges
The deal mostly involves the remaining "vulnerable" hostages, such as the Bibas children, women, and the elderly.
No reports on which of the hostages are still alive or dead, as no information has yet been made public
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Do the palesneedians get released back into Gaza? Not like there's many places to hide.
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Some to Gaza, some to Turkey, some to Qatar. not sure who goes where and why though
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Send them all to London and Dearborn
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Aevann why?
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Wdym?
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Why did Aevann let this submission?
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Rude
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But it's true?
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Good point lol. They can "release" anyone into Gaza and it'd hardly be a problem.
Also no more Kong name?
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He has powerful allies
https://rdrama.net/@Holly_Jolly_Kong/wall/comment/7619116#context
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Sometimes the 1 Israeli worth a 100 Goyim myth really comes to bite them in the butt. Especially during hostage exchange negotiations. Surprisingly many cases.
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they should put trackers in the Palestinians
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1 Israeli per 30 Palestinians seems like an equivalent exchange, seeing how many children are born in Palestine, and how expendable their soldiers are.
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!chuds
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Isn't that Reformed Orthodox Rabbi Bill Clinton guy?
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lmao, WE MIGHT SEE A TRUMP NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
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He ain't black so....
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Anyone who believes the entire sandshit area from Turkey to Pakistan is anything but a PR outlet for American Presidents (prop up one jihadi, prop up another jewish chad, coup yet another sandBIPOC) is high on his own exhaust COOMs
!historychads
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Every American president would like it if the region disappeared. They don't like having a sudden crisis come up every 3 weeks.
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Only weak presidents see it as a crisis. The COOMer chad presidents see it as a way to whip Congress into party lines and across the line for those DoD deals and a post presidency a million dollar a year Brookings Institution board of director position.
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Has any ex-president actually done that? For a long time Brookings was (not hyperbole) owned by Qatar.
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Then we just need to glass it all and be done with it smdh
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Magacommunists immediately vindictated lmao
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The immortal science of Marxism-Trumpism.
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First post about this. Pinning.
About the deal, while I expect this to be spun, especially on this site, as ideal to Israel or at least good enough I will say when the first geopolitics guys on Twitter were publishing the deal as a rumour the general Israeli userbase of Twitter was wholeheartedly against this and some went as far as calling it a lie. The anti-Bibi section did point out how it's similar to a deal earlier last year which would have brought back a similar amount of totally living hostages as well. The leftoid reaction seemed to be that the deal was better than they could have really wanted and they were surprised but Trump has probably promised Bibi annexation of the West Bank (or more specifically Areas C and parts of B) or something so it's a rugpull.
Basically, the Art of the Deal is a powerful thing.
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Wdym?
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Dramatards love our Jewish overlords.
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The Jewish mods are pro Jew!?
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Yeah but @Avalon seems to be implying something bad about them
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I don't know if you knew this bud, but everyone who lives in the Middle East is bad.
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What? Even the Lebbos?
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They're honorary meds. Their women r hot and they are great at partying and they have good food.
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@Redactor0Boy
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I've said this before but nobody puts any XP into building up their Lore (Redactor) skill around here. I still get people asking me if I'm asian. (What part of trans-asian don't you understand?)
I've never known any Lebanese except a couple of you tards on this site. I got interested in Lebanon because I was consciously choosing a place that I had no personal attachment to in any way so I could be unbiased.
There's a lot of things happening in Lebanon right now and a lot of things happening in Korea. I've been focusing on Korea because, tbqh, I actually care about that on more than an intellectual level.
Now half-Turkic half-Persian women, we could have a conversation about that...
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@McCoxmaul
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Dunno really as there are no rightoids on rDrama.
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Yes so much this
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this would be a clever maneuver if true, I don't know if I believe it though: https://old.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/1i22cjt/megathread_israeli_official_confirms/m7cgkrl/?context=8
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The annexation of the West bank? Or the deal on the whole?
EDIT: The former I agree the latter is cope. As I said the deal was denounced as a lie only 3 days ago across a lot of Israeli society. That some may spin it now as a secret 4d chess win is expected but silly. I don't expect "peace" to hold however I agree there.
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why the zionists here arent r-slurred reactionaries we're smart
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The majority of you guys sure but not the opinion makers of this site IMO. All it takes is one @sandkwinn comment over something completely adjacent and the barely disguised seethe flows out. No offense.
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90% of the people who seethe at her just hate arabs and women, which makes them normal people, not necessarily zionists
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boo!
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she says with piss soaked pants
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always funny when women think theyre intimidating and not annoying
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oook sure you're not scared of watermelon
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I love watermelons. I eat a huge amount in the summer. It's delicious
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Grown ups are in charge
I bet taking trumps picture. Putting grown ups are in charge top of it and maga in bottom and spreading them around would count some drama
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the war ending while hamas still exists is one of the worst ideas ever
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This but Israel still existing blue lives matter
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the only silver lining here is hamas is going to sneak in to kill and kidnap civilians again sometime in the next 5ish years and israel will actually genocide them all. everyone will know it's a real genocide because the war will be over in about 72 hours.
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10-15 actually. They need the current generation of teenagers to grow up and be trained over time, and also time to rebuild their network.
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Based PalestiBIPOCs abstaining from voting for Jewish chadmala, enabling Donald al-Trump to free the oppressed.
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I don't see the problem
1. Sign the deal, get the hostages back
2. Renege on the deal and kill every single Hamas member
What are people in the future going to do as a result, not sign deals with Israel anymore despite the fact that they don't trust Israel anyway and Israel has an overwhelming military advantage? Brutally kill Israelis instead of taking any hostages?
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Remind @HailVictory1776 when Israel finally ceases too be from the river too the sea blue lives matter
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Why?
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Snapshots:
https://x.com/IsraelHayomHeb/status/1879571638267883995:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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