Long/Nose Serial Serious Replyer 6d ago#7874872
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The "rules of warfare" are so gay. I'm so sick of cute twink redditors clutching their pearls over civilians or "war crimes" from their little brooklyn coffeeshop where they do remote project management and send emails
Stop trying to sanitize warfare. "oh the women and children might go hungry noooooo" while a bunch of compulsorily conscripted 18 year olds are getting their brains blown out. Just keep yourself safe if you think someone getting missiles fired at their homes for 80 years and looking at another 200 years of it gives a shit about your little picket sign
If you think stopping aid to israel is going to "save" civilian lives, its not. A ceasefire just means that this happens again, and again until the end of time. Unironically more "lives" would be saved by turning the strip to dust than prolonging this any longer if that's the metric you care about.
I'd be much more on this fence if Israel didn't let settlers build into west bank during peace time. They use Gaza as an excuse to jab their fingers in palis eyes. Being outwardly provocative in peace time is dumb.
Right wing Israelis plays both sides instead of admitting their imperialist intentions.
It should be total peace or face total death. But they can't help themselves. So it's mostly just an abusive relationship with a woman who keeps coming back for more
Long/Nose Serial Serious Replyer Patrice 6d ago#7875429
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The problem is that governments answer to people. And people, by and large, aren't interested in just sitting it out in the long term until the heat dies down. General populations want things to be better as soon as possible, and sometimes that leads to calls for swift and decisive retaliation. They seek the path of quickest relief which may be violence, until the violence goes on for so long that the relief comes from peace, and the cycle continues
The comment isn't just about Israel anyways. I see the same pearl clutching when cams get posted of Russian soldiers dropping their weapons and still getting domed by a mortar
Long/Nose Serial Serious Replyer Patrice 6d ago#7875470
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I mean, it benefits you until it doesnt.
I saw people saying russians were committing war crimes by using civilian vans to transport ammo to their troops because they ran out of military vehicles in the area. Imagine being on the front lines watching your friends get blown to bits and then some fricking redditor saying you shouldn't use the functional car right next to you to help your people because its "not fair"
People can crow about honor all they want but nobody should honestly expect this stuff to be ironclad once the bullets start flying
Fortunately that never happens in Palestine, and if you think it does you're a Nazi supporting genocide. Also all the hostages preferred living in Palestine and didn't want to go back, Hamas told me so.
Imagine being on the front lines watching your friends get blown to bits and then some fricking redditor saying you shouldn't use the functional car right next to you to help your people because its "not fair"
It's not that it's not fair, it's that moving ammo and troops in unmarked civilian vehicles gives the enemy a reason to blow up vehicles driven by actual civilians because they can't distinguish between the two. It's not any different from Hamas's human shield tactics.
It's the same reason as why it's a war crime to pretend to surrender. It's not because it's cheating, it's because it's telling the enemy that they should just stop bothering to take prisoners.
I understand why you shouldn't do it in principle but also think it's dumb to moralstrag over people "breaking the rules" when they're in life or death situations
Its bad to do it as a full scale all the time policy of course
I mean what you described isn't life or death, it's officers sending men to the front knowing they don't have the military vehicles to supply them, then instead of ordering them to retreat or surrender trying to supply them with civilian vehicles without marking them with a Z or whatever.
Those officers should be court martialed. Of course the modern strategy is to make your troops look like civilians and cry when actual civilians get killed in the confusion so I'm sure they didn't.
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If you think stopping aid to israel is going to "save" civilian lives, its not. A ceasefire just means that this happens again, and again until the end of time. Unironically more "lives" would be saved by turning the strip to dust than prolonging this any longer if that's the metric you care about.
A big thing reddit failed to !nooticers was that Israel can only be so soft on Gaza because of American aid. The iron dome is very costly when you compare to just dropping a few bombs on where ever rockets are fired from.
The laws of war literally say Israel is allowed to do this since Hamas has been openly stealing the supplies. LMAO imagine thinking you could outlawyer Jews.
it's the difference between a civilized power doing the needful to maintain stability, and actual evil.
Just keep yourself safe if you think someone getting missiles fired at their homes for 80 years and looking at another 200 years of it gives a shit about your little picket sign
jews kinda deserve it for what they did in order to establish israel
If you think stopping aid to israel is going to "save" civilian lives, its not.
if israel doesn't actually need our help, why do we keep giving it to them???
Unironically more "lives" would be saved by turning the strip to dust than prolonging this any longer if that's the metric you care about.
that unironically makes me question whether you can even do math
the solution here only become apparently once we acknowledge and admit what the jews, or at least what a rather powerful and politically connected banking cartel of them, have been committing to both establish and maintain israel...
then the us annexes both israel and palenstine, to bring law, order, and cohesion, especially by forcing them to speak the same language, and serve on the same side.
or at least thats what i would do as president. vote for me 2028! manifest destiny earth!
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goderator200 6d ago#7876168
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and are also subservient to the lord
They certainly don't think so, they've built a whole tradition around trying to God's word
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goderator200 6d ago#7876192
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I'm really looking forward to seeing them all go to heck for trying to bend the rules of the almighty. Like, why would you think there was leeway there?
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Well yeah but talmudism isn't about that, it's about trying to get away with things
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The "rules of warfare" are so gay. I'm so sick of cute twink redditors clutching their pearls over civilians or "war crimes" from their little brooklyn coffeeshop where they do remote project management and send emails
Stop trying to sanitize warfare. "oh the women and children might go hungry noooooo" while a bunch of compulsorily conscripted 18 year olds are getting their brains blown out. Just keep yourself safe if you think someone getting missiles fired at their homes for 80 years and looking at another 200 years of it gives a shit about your little picket sign
If you think stopping aid to israel is going to "save" civilian lives, its not. A ceasefire just means that this happens again, and again until the end of time. Unironically more "lives" would be saved by turning the strip to dust than prolonging this any longer if that's the metric you care about.
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I'd be much more on this fence if Israel didn't let settlers build into west bank during peace time. They use Gaza as an excuse to jab their fingers in palis eyes. Being outwardly provocative in peace time is dumb.
Right wing Israelis plays both sides instead of admitting their imperialist intentions.
It should be total peace or face total death. But they can't help themselves. So it's mostly just an abusive relationship with a woman who keeps coming back for more
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The problem is that governments answer to people. And people, by and large, aren't interested in just sitting it out in the long term until the heat dies down. General populations want things to be better as soon as possible, and sometimes that leads to calls for swift and decisive retaliation. They seek the path of quickest relief which may be violence, until the violence goes on for so long that the relief comes from peace, and the cycle continues
The comment isn't just about Israel anyways. I see the same pearl clutching when cams get posted of Russian soldiers dropping their weapons and still getting domed by a mortar
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Rules of combat benefit both parties in any war
Stuff like prisoner exchanges, torture, executions, targetting medevac etc should never be tolerated
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I mean, it benefits you until it doesnt.
I saw people saying russians were committing war crimes by using civilian vans to transport ammo to their troops because they ran out of military vehicles in the area. Imagine being on the front lines watching your friends get blown to bits and then some fricking redditor saying you shouldn't use the functional car right next to you to help your people because its "not fair"
People can crow about honor all they want but nobody should honestly expect this stuff to be ironclad once the bullets start flying
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Civilian vehicles carting ammunition or troops would lose their protections and not violate Geneva or other war crimes tho. Redditors are dumb
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Yeah but extend that logic to civilian buildings housing troops and equipment and you have the seeds for this whole debacle
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Fortunately that never happens in Palestine, and if you think it does you're a Nazi supporting genocide. Also all the hostages preferred living in Palestine and didn't want to go back, Hamas told me so.
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It's not that it's not fair, it's that moving ammo and troops in unmarked civilian vehicles gives the enemy a reason to blow up vehicles driven by actual civilians because they can't distinguish between the two. It's not any different from Hamas's human shield tactics.
It's the same reason as why it's a war crime to pretend to surrender. It's not because it's cheating, it's because it's telling the enemy that they should just stop bothering to take prisoners.
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I understand why you shouldn't do it in principle but also think it's dumb to moralstrag over people "breaking the rules" when they're in life or death situations
Its bad to do it as a full scale all the time policy of course
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I mean what you described isn't life or death, it's officers sending men to the front knowing they don't have the military vehicles to supply them, then instead of ordering them to retreat or surrender trying to supply them with civilian vehicles without marking them with a Z or whatever.
Those officers should be court martialed. Of course the modern strategy is to make your troops look like civilians and cry when actual civilians get killed in the confusion so I'm sure they didn't.
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A big thing reddit failed to !nooticers was that Israel can only be so soft on Gaza because of American aid. The iron dome is very costly when you compare to just dropping a few bombs on where ever rockets are fired from.
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ok but have you considered that if they just stopped fighting everyone in the middle east would just get along?
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Just uninvent religion and this wouldn't have happened
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The laws of war literally say Israel is allowed to do this since Hamas has been openly stealing the supplies. LMAO imagine thinking you could outlawyer Jews.
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it's the difference between a civilized power doing the needful to maintain stability, and actual evil.
jews kinda deserve it for what they did in order to establish israel
if israel doesn't actually need our help, why do we keep giving it to them???
that unironically makes me question whether you can even do math
the solution here only become apparently once we acknowledge and admit what the jews, or at least what a rather powerful and politically connected banking cartel of them, have been committing to both establish and maintain israel...
then the us annexes both israel and palenstine, to bring law, order, and cohesion, especially by forcing them to speak the same language, and serve on the same side.
or at least thats what i would do as president. vote for me 2028! manifest destiny earth!
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You've never read the Talmud, have you?
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as much as u like to put them on a pedestal, jews are still human
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They certainly don't think so, they've built a whole tradition around trying to
God's word
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yeah a lot of religion is kinda bs,
but that doens't mean a 2nd coming ain't happening, whatever that is gunna be
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I'm really looking forward to seeing them all go to heck for trying to bend the rules of the almighty. Like, why would you think there was leeway there?
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cause the "rules" conflict?
they were all delivered from fallible human prophets of some sort or another, so like of course they ain't perfect
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Well yeah but talmudism isn't about that, it's about trying to get away with things
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Source?
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Everything else you said is r-slurred but yeah this would work
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if it takes an r-slur to state the obvious, then what does that make u?
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Cope
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