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Tell HN: Sites like Kiwifarms are destroying free speech :!marseysoycry:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32731501

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Over the last few days, there's been a lot of discussion about kiwifarms being taken offline by Cloudflare. As is expected from HN, the average response was one appalled by the apparent free speech violation, and a general concern for the precedent being set.

While I understand the sentiment, and have thought the same in the past ( with Aaron Swartz or Chelsea Manning); I want to pose an alternative question: What's the precedence set by continuing to do business with kiwifarms?

Over the last few days there's been a lot I've wanted to say, but I felt like I couldn't speak. I've been on HN for the better part of a decade, but I can't say anything as myself. Instead I need to use a throwaway account and only connect over a VPN, because I'm a trans woman talking about kiwifarms.

I've seen how dangerous it can be for a trans woman to stick her head up. I've watched friends and strangers alike be harassed, attacked, SWAT'd, and doxxed. Not public figures (though they don't deserve death threats either), just regular trans people trying to live their lives and speak their experiences.

I no longer feel like I can speak up, for fear of illegal reprisals. Why should they be allowed to infringe on my rights? Why should I have to hide?

Cloudflair's decision to stop doing business with kiwifarms is a step towards free speech, not away.

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I wish they’d just be honest and say they want everything that offends them banned. I feel like the 90’s Christians at least came closer for that. They’d say it’s offensive to my religion/God. There wasn’t word salad and mental gymnastics to explain how censoring every dissenting thought is actually promoting free speech.

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I think this is a good indicator where the 🚂will go next.

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Bardfinn unironically called Julian Assange a fascist accelerationist and got upmarseyd: https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/wnt2lp/rand_paul_wants_to_legalize_espionage_senator_you/ik7nrxf/

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Can they point me to some AHS style?

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I think it's their cope trying to pretend that they're not the same as the censorship loving 90's Christians :marseyshrug:

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It's all about power

Motte and Bailey is effective

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They both hate JK Rowling too

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JK Rowling is the drama candidate

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We've become the church lady, offended by comedy and science.

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90s Christians never had any real power and the "the right-wing was censoring things just like the left today" is just cope bullshit. TV shows weren't firing actors for offending Christians, the president wasn't boasting about supporting Christian rights and people weren't afraid to criticize Christianity (quite the opposite)

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They’ll get there soon enough

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