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DiamWall CEO showed up in this thread :marseyxd: It's over for :marseykiwi: (again), DiamWall just dropped KF after less than a day :marseyitsover::marseyitsover::marseyitsover:

Statement here: https://www.diamwall.com/blog/service-continuation-of-kiwi-farms

EDIT: http://kiwifarms.st/ appears to be spotty, sometimes getting a "page could not be loaded" error on top of the 502s


Service Continuation Of Kiwi Farms...

My name is Hugo Carvalho and I'm the CEO of DiamWall, today I'm bringing an important statement that I never thought I would need to do anytime soon.

About our CDN...

Before even starting to talk about Kiwi Farms I think it is important to let people know what a CDN is and does.

We are only a proxy that filters website traffic and blocks malicious requests, we DO NOT host any website, we ARE NOT responsible for any website's content and we CANNOT control every service's content.

Everyone is free to register an account at our website, pay for the product and start using it. We DO NOT and CANNOT analyze every single website that starts using our services.

DiamWall is completely new in this market (we opened to the public one month ago) and this is not a good way to start for sure, nor is it the way that we wanted to start.

DiamWall was formed by a small group of people that worked for many years in this area with private customers and we created the best Anti-DDoS technologies that ever existed.

Now that you understand how it works, let's talk about Kiwi Farms...

The owner of Kiwi Farms came in need of DDoS Protection and because their website was offline due to DDoS, we didn't really know about their website's content. They had a PROBLEM and we had the SOLUTION.

Soon enough the reports started to arrive and we started digging more and more about this website, soon enough we found that Kiwi Farms hosts a lot of revolting content.

We do not think that is fair to terminate any service because of public pressure but in this case, we think there is some foundation behind all those requests and we really do not want to have anything to do with it.

So, after careful consideration, DiamWall does not feel like Kiwi Farms is a good fit for our company, which means that today we are SUSPENDING their service inside DiamWall's CDN.

Please be AWARE that this will not fix the issue, only delay it, they will find another provider that can protect them and will be online once again.

Best Regards,

Hugo Carvalho,

DiamWall CEO

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Why don't these guys grow some balls? Wtf so now anytime an angry mob wants to take down a particular site they can?

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And don't forget that the ddos prevention services aren't hosting it, just holding off the constant ddos (a federal crime) by programmer socks. Who is really the "cyberterrorist" here?

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tbh this company is a month old, getting vilified by the largest army of trains online ever seen couldn't be good for them

aka capitalism wins again :marseycapitalistmanlet:

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Orrrr its better advertising than cloudflare

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It's a tarnished by association. If they kept kiwifarms, I'm sure the :!marseytrain:s would go after every company that they do business with. You would get a Parler/Gab/bitchute situation where the only people using it are hyper rightoids, and your potential market would be extremely reduced.

I think Cloudfare could easily withstand the :marseytrain: army, but not a small company with no public image. In a cold way, it's way better for business to drop kiwifarms.

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Yeah payment processors/credit card companies/banking buckle to twitter pressure pretty easily and Keffals and co would 100% target them. That sector refusing to service such a small company would probably outright kill it.

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THIS IS WHY WE NEED CRYPTO GOD DARNIT

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Exactly. I would add that even for Cloudflare Kiwifarms was bad for business (even though them being publicly traded is what probably made their decision), but they would be able to withstand some bad publicity and few nobodies dropping them if they really wanted. No big client is dropping probably the most reliable CDN they can get.

The sheer size and capital of Cloudflare cannot be matched by smaller alternatives, from both the technical aspect (before KF got dropped by the Russian CDN, their first post-Cloudflare, I believe the Ruskies weren't able to handle the DDOS) and just the ability to weather the bad publicity and potential client loss.

The only way forward I see for Kiwifarms is to try and find a company with ideally no social media presence that operates almost exclusively in non english country/countries. This way, the tools used so far - social media dogpiling and bad press - would have massively diminished influence. Indonesia/India/some African country, maybe one of the -stans, might be destinations to look at. Ideally a company from a populated country, as they're more likely to have good enough infrastructure to deal with all the traffic.

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I assure you KiwiFarms has or had 0 to do with their stock price though

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That's not really what I mean, it was just an important source of external pressure.

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Not really, I assure you pretty much no one would care

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Cloudflare shareholders wouldn't care about the dozens of articles accusing Cloudflare of hosting terrorists?

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Wakandaflare

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Maybe Nigeria

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Speaks English plus a fair bit of connection to the Western world both make them more susceptible to pressure IMO. But it was one of the countries on my mind.

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Maybe they'll keep KF just to make the westoid colonizers pissed.

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Dude this isn't even a lot of people. It's a handful of internet :marseytrain2:s throwing a tantrum.

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*transtrum

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:marseytrain2:s are saints you chud. Even when they do crimes you chud

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